Democratic Primaries
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Great interview with Rolling Stone talking about the debate and how to beat Trump. It also goes into detail how some of our candidates are, unfortunately, beginning to use language similar to the health insurance lobby against Medicare for All.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/bernie-sanders-debate-interview-exclusive-884254/
Taibbi: I want to talk a little bit about what your strategy would be if you were in the general election. A lot of the candidates, both in the last race and in this year already, they fall into the trap when theyre campaigning against Donald Trump of trading insults with him, getting into this endless cycle of barbs, and the media loves to cover that.
Correct me if Im wrong, I feel like you have a different strategy. You dont seem to want to engage Trump on that level. You always seem to want to continue talking to voters, almost past him, and focus on the issues, focus on your message of opposing corporate power.
If you were the nominee, how would you deal with Donald Trump differently from the other candidates?
Sanders: I think, Matt, that what you said is basically correct. On one hand you cannot ignore his pathological lying, his racism, his sexism, his xenophobia, his religious bigotry. I mean you cant do that. You have to defend people who are being attacked by this racist president.
But on the other hand, if you become obsessed, and I think this is the point youre making, if you become obsessed with Donald Trumps tweets, you fall into his trap. So I think the main point we make, when we go to states like Michigan, when you go to Wisconsin, when you go to Pennsylvania, when you go to Florida, is you say to the working people of those states, You know what, not only is this guy a liar, hes a fraud.
He told you that he was going to stand with the working class of this country, he told you he was going to take on Wall Street and the drug companies and the insurance companies. Well the evidence is clear, he lied to you.
You dont stand with the working class when you try to throw 32 million people off of health insurance. You dont stand with the working class of this country when 83% of the tax benefits that you push for, that you succeeded in getting, go to the top 1% at the end of 10 years. Youre not standing with the working class.
You remember, Matt and Katie, that when he campaigned he said, Im a different type of Republican, Im not going to cut Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Absolute lie. His budget does exactly that.
So he said, I want American companies not to go abroad. Well hes producing products for his own company abroad. Oh my God, its terrible that we have all these undocumented people in this country, I hate undocumented people. Oh yeah? Well theyre working in your companies.
Theyre working at your resorts, Donald Trump, youre a goddamned liar. Forgive me. Shouldnt say that.
Taibbi: Everybodys using profanity now, its okay.
Sanders: All right. And thats what you expose him, is the fraud. Here he is hiring undocumented people in his own resorts, after he is ranting and raving and demonizing undocumented people. So I think that is the point you make to working-class people: he lied to you.
And I think we also have to understand, and youve heard me say this a million times, Matt that is to my mind, it wasnt that Trump won, its that the Democratic Party lost. And the Democratic Party forgot about the tens of millions of working-class people in this country, black and white and Latino, Native American, Asian-American, people who are struggling.
Half of the people in this country are living paycheck to paycheck. Car breaks down, theyre in severe trouble. They cant afford to go to the doctor. Those are the folks we have to start paying attention to. And when we do that, youll defeat Donald Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)"Trump is a liar" ... who would have known?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,155 posts)" You dont stand with the working class when you try to throw 32 million people off of health insurance. You dont stand with the working class of this country when 83% of the tax benefits that you push for, that you succeeded in getting, go to the top 1% at the end of 10 years. Youre not standing with the working class. "
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" So he said, I want American companies not to go abroad. Well hes producing products for his own company abroad. Oh my God, its terrible that we have all these undocumented people in this country, I hate undocumented people. Oh yeah? Well theyre working in your companies.
Theyre working at your resorts, Donald Trump, youre a goddamned liar. Forgive me. Shouldnt say that. "
...no Bernie, more people should say that...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Right now THIS is TOTALLY unnecessary---
"And I think we also have to understand, and youve heard me say this a million times, Matt that is to my mind, it wasnt that Trump won, its that the Democratic Party lost. And the Democratic Party forgot about the tens of millions of working-class people in this country, black and white and Latino, Native American, Asian-American, people who are struggling."
Now this may very well be true, or partially true...... or not...... BUT..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,244 posts)approve of the shit he is doing. why is he always making excuses for them ?
Sanders has been in public office for decades without having much accomplishment. he attacks ACA but he was there for decades before Obama got there . Sanders had done nothing but Obama was able to get something.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,394 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden