Repost:JoyReid Insulting Biden Supporters May 29, 2019...

[Cha]

Link to tweet

September 4, 2019..

Black Democrats overwhelmingly support Joe Biden to be the party's next presidential nominee: poll

https://www.salon.com/2019/09/04/black-democrats-overwhelmingly-support-joe-biden-to-be-the-partys-next-presidential-nominee-poll/

Original OP.. highplainsdem https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287135099

[Cha]

1. KICK!

[emmaverybo]

2. She should have been gone with her homophobic comments. She continues to show uninformed

bias. I am all around disappointed in MSNBC’s ability to report and comment on this primary. I don’t know if she is actually hostile or just stirring it up with insulting garbage.

[Cha]

5. Thanks, emmaverybo..

That was such an ugly insult she threw at Biden Supporters at the end of May.. and totally untrue.

And, now she has someone on her showing promoting Biden to drop out.

[Kahuna7]

82. I'm on that tweet. nt

[redstateblues]

3. Joy Reid has zero credibility

[EffieBlack]

4. She has enough credibility for some folk here to spend the day trying to discredit her

Which, coincidentally (or maybe not), is just, how Trump started his day.

It seems that Joy has more than enough credibility to get Trump and some DUers freaked out by what she has to say (or what they falsely claim she has to say). Otherwise, why are you stlll talking about her?

[babylonsister]

9. Thank you! nt

[Cha]

12. Yeah, I don't like her because she insulted Biden

supporters.. which is the topic of the OP.

Thanks for Kicking it!

[EffieBlack]

13. If she doesn't matter, why do you care WHAT she says about Biden supporters?

[Kahuna7]

83. I care because I'm a biden supporter and she has no business deciding why

I decided to support him. Not only that, it's none of her business why.

[EffieBlack]

91. I wasn't talking to you

[Cha]

92. Thank you, Kahuna

Exactly.

[babylonsister]

14. She insulted Biden today, and she

wasn't alone. You fans need to get thicker skins.

[Cha]

21. "..you fans need to get thicker skins.." What a rude

thing to say ".. you fans.. "

We're not going to roll over when we're insulted with such a Stupid accusation.

Biden is leading with POC.. it's not just us "baby boomers longing for status quo".. Insulting to Joe Biden, too

Link to tweet

Black Democrats overwhelmingly support Joe Biden to be the party's next presidential nominee: poll

https://www.salon.com/2019/09/04/black-democrats-overwhelmingly-support-joe-biden-to-be-the-partys-next-presidential-nominee-poll/

[babylonsister]

25. I know you're a fan to the exclusion

of everything else going on from what I see. Have at it.

[Cha]

26. And, you keep digging.. Follow your

own advice.. "Have at it".

[emmaverybo]

43. We don't NEED to do anything. You meant we should not express our anger at being insulted. To

HELL with that. We will resist as we feel like resisting.

[Cha]

44. Mahalo, emmaverybo!

Best reply!

[LanternWaste]

78. I imagine we all have approximately the same epidermis...

varying from 0.5mm on eyelids to 4mm or more on the palms of hands and the soles of feet.

[highplainsdem]

15. Reid should get pushback when she uses her show to promote the idea that the front-runner

should drop out. What an asinine thing to do, if we're going to have much chance of wining the GE.

[EffieBlack]

19. Pushback is one thing. An all day pity party about her being mean to your candidate is another

People call on candidates to drop out every day. The over-the-top reaction to Reid’ surely isn’t the reaction of people confident in their candidate since anyone who trusts that their candidate has the chops to take on Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un surely wouldn’t spend an entire day whining that Joy-An Reid picked on him.

[highplainsdem]

23. There were no posts in any threads about her till mid or late afternoon, dependig on your time zone.

Not exactly an all-day party.

People call on candidates to drop out every day.

No, they don't. They might call on candidates who are polling poorly to drop out, but it's rare to hear those calls for any candidate doing at all well.

Calling on the front-runner to drop out is bizarre and self-defeating for the party. The only possible benefit is to candidates who haven't been able ti do as well as the front-runner.

But it's incredibly stupid to want our strongest candidate to drop out.

[emmaverybo]

46. It is plum crazy. The notion that Biden should drop out to give a better chance of winning the

primary to a candidate with less of a chance of winning the GE is childish, spoiled, and short-sighted. Why not wait and see what happens? If the currently strong candidate loses polling strength, loses support, and one’s preferred candidate becomes the lead, well, then...all the better for that supporter, I would think.

That lead would at some point have one heck of an endorsement!

[Kahuna7]

85. And his supporters only support him because he's old and white. Anybody

who thinks and says that, betrays themselves as morons, not capable of even shallow logic.

[Cha]

17. Joy Reid has "discredited" herself with

her homophobic blog posts and insulting Biden supporters.

And yeah, stupid trump "sneered" at her.. and I defended her against him.

[EffieBlack]

20. She can't be all that "discredited" given the amount of energy you're putting into trying to

convince people she doesn’t have an credibility - after spending all day complaining about her.

[Cha]

24. Reid did "discredit" herself with her homophobic

blog posts and the stupid accusation against Biden supporters.. whether you deny it or not.

[melman]

34. "Reid did "discredit" herself with her homophobic blog posts"

I tend to agree but you sure didn't say that at the time.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210546396#post148

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210540249#post35

[Cha]

35. Yes, melman thanks for digging up my

past posts. I defended her then but that doesn't mean she didn't "discredit" herself.. just because I defended her.

I'm not defending her anymore.

[melman]

36. "I'm not defending her anymore."

Right. But only because you feel she went against Biden.

[Cha]

38. Don't put words in my mouth, melman.

[melman]

40. I didn't do that

But why else would you have a problem with her blogs now if you didn't then?

[Cha]

41. Yes you did.

[melman]

42. Can't answer the question?

Okay.

[emmaverybo]

49. You refuse "I'm not defending her anymore" as an answer. Cha answered. Her answer fell on deaf

ears, purposely deaf because her answer deprives you of a “gotcha.” If you don’t like the answer, just harass by asking the same question again...

[LanternWaste]

79. Cool! Another post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy.

[Celerity]

61. +1000

[redstateblues]

32. Her fans needto be reminded of her checkered past of homophobia and lying

Maybe she should give up her show

[EffieBlack]

37. How generous of you to take so much time "reminding her fans" about her "checkered past"

by going on and on and on about what she did and didn’t say about Joe Biden. I’m sure they appreciate your concern - that all of a sudden needed to be addressed today of all days.

An awful lot of time and effort spent trying to discredit someone you claim has already no credibility.

[redstateblues]

47. It wasn't that much time and energy. It probably took a minute or two to state the obvious

[EffieBlack]

48. "State the obvious" ... over and over and over and over

[LanternWaste]

80. Almost as much times and effort as is spent crediting her as objective.

"An awful lot of time and effort spent trying to discredit someone..."

[iluvtennis]

51. +++ agree

[Cha]

54. No.. I'm not "freaked out".. that's just a

deflecting insult.

We do have a right to disagree with Reid about promoting Biden dropping out.. whether she said it herself or not.'

Apparently she's on FB asking if Biden should drop out..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=279865

[Cha]

10. Like I would care if I "pissed off" my "trumpy

neighbors" if I had any. Hmmmmfff.

Aloha and Mahalo, restateblues!

[highplainsdem]

6. Thanks, Cha! K&R!

[Cha]

29. Thank you, highplains, for orginally

posting it!

[redstateblues]

33. Maybe Joy should give up her show

Considering her past homophobia and lying-

[emmaverybo]

50. She should have been fired.

[Me.]

7. KicK

Aloha Hoa...

[Cha]

60. Aloha, Me!

Hoaaloha!

[Thekaspervote]

8. She has her favorite, and it isn't Joe. Her nasty unprofessional demeanor is showing

Time for a boycott!!

[iamateacher]

11. Not watching Joy any more

K&R

[George II]

16. I could only take her for about five or six minutes this morning, then switched to CNN...

And I usually watch her full two hours every Saturday and Sunday morning.

[brush]

52. You missed her rebuttal to the guest. He's the one who called for Biden to step down. She went...

against what he called for. That meme that's circulating that she called for Biden to step down is a lie.

[Cha]

58. Wow.. that says a lot

to me.. Thank you, George.

This is from highplainsdem who watched it later on Vid.. what we missed.. or not.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=280155

[ritapria]

18. How about the way MSNBC treats Bernie ?

One commentator on MSNBC said Bernie "Made her skin crawl" ….. That he was "anti - woman" … Gloria Steinem declared Bernie an "honorary woman ""

[Beringia]

22. True

[Hoyt]

27. I'm sure many share her opinion. I don't, but it's no big deal.

[SergeStorms]

28. I've read worse on supposed "liberal" websites.

She is entitled to her opinion. If we can't voice our own opinions we're in very bad shape. I'm sure she'll get behind whoever the democratic candidate turns out to be, as we all will. I sincerely don't want DU or other democratic websites to turn into FOX Noise, where dissent or differing opinions aren't tolerated.

[Cha]

31. Nobody.. Not one person has said Reid isn't

"..entitled to her opinions..".

Guess what? We're entitled to our opinions, too!

[SergeStorms]

77. OK.

Let's jump up and down on each other's backs every time there's a posted opinion that differs from ours. That's what people are doing here, or is it just because the sainted JOE was the object of that differing opinion? I think the latter.

[Cha]

86. ".. sainted Joe.. " Nobody said he was

"sainted", either.

If you actually read the OP Reid insulted Biden supporters.

Your telling others how to react is not working.

[WheelWalker]

30. Kicked and recommended. Since I have nothing good to say about Joy, I'll leave it at that.

[Cha]

55. Mahalo, WheelWalker!

[EveHammond13]

39. if she's pissed now, she's going to be really torqued when he's the nominee.

[JI7]

45. she isn't pissed and she is ok if he is the nominee

[Cha]

56. Here she is "not being pissed" on FB promoting

the dropping out..

Reid's FB..

"Our guest author Anand Giridharadas is not the only person who thinks Biden should drop out of the 2020 race after his debate comments. What do you think, #reiders? Watch and weigh in:"

LOl@first reply..

Robert Miller Biden drop out??? I thought it was a typo, and the title meant to say Castro! Castro was wrong about everything regarding his exchange with Biden. Biden knew exactly what he had said. If anyone should go, it should be Castro!

Bridget Davis Enough with the bashing of candidates. Joy everyone knows you aren't for Biden and try at every opportunity to hurt his campaign. I will vote for who ever the nominee is whether it be Biden or someone else.

https://www.facebook.com/joyreidofficial/posts/2306261106153165

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=280234

Reid doesn't have to say it directly "Biden drop out".. she's promoting it.

[Scurrilous]

53. K&R

[Cha]

68. Mahalo, Scurrilous..

[Cha]

57. On Reid's FB Page..

"Our guest author Anand Giridharadas is not the only person who thinks Biden should drop out of the 2020 race after his debate comments. What do you think, #reiders? Watch and weigh in:"

LOl@first reply..

Robert Miller Biden drop out??? I thought it was a typo, and the title meant to say Castro! Castro was wrong about everything regarding his exchange with Biden. Biden knew exactly what he had said. If anyone should go, it should be Castro!

Bridget Davis Enough with the bashing of candidates. Joy everyone knows you aren't for Biden and try at every opportunity to hurt his campaign. I will vote for who ever the nominee is whether it be Biden or someone else.

https://www.facebook.com/joyreidofficial/posts/2306261106153165

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=280234

Reid doesn't have to say it directly "Biden drop out".. she's promoting it.

Maye James-Holler I don’t agree with your guest! Sure he could have handle the question better. But when i see how ALL the channels put Trump in the White House by giving him free publicity, as he lied everyday and couldn’t answer a damn question so he called people names. That didn’t bother the pundits, when Joe makes a mistake or a gaffe, oh my, lets kick him out. PLEASE!!! I’m a person of color and I’m for JOE!

Debbie Marijanovich It's obvious that many MSNBC hosts have their favorites! They have been after Biden before he even tossed his hat in the ring

Bonnie Blancett Anand Giridharadas is insufferable. I watched that interview. There was no respect for Vice President Biden. And, I'm sick of Joy having these people on with their immature points of view. All they want is purity. Have they lived seasoned lives. NO! Have they the ability to appreciate anyone before their existence. And shame on Julian Castro for daring to think he has more sway with Obama than Biden. Even Warren dodges confrontation. Did Joe melt into the background when attacked? NO! He was stunned but stood his ground. Joe would never stoop to the behavior of these jealous, self serving people. ie, Booker and Castro. He has my vote, my family's vote, and most of us are older. We know what it means to be a true Democrat.

Asiwaju Femi Falade Nonsense, Joe Biden drop out? I like Joy Reid, but one thing I have noticed about her, is that she is always happy to report negative news about Joe Biden. I am really getting tired of this so called liberal and progressive media, they like to batch their own politicians, most especially if they don't want certain politician to get to a certain position. They did the same thing with Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. They devoted about 75% of their time covering negative stories about Hillary Clinton e.g email scandal, server sandal, Benghazi scandal etc. Enough is enough.

[treestar]

64. They hit the nail on the head!

Thanks for those, Cha!

They are trying the Hillary formula. Did not work then and won't now.

[Cha]

65. You're Welcome, treestar!

Thank you for reading!

[Gothmog]

71. It is time to boycott AMJOY

[NCLefty]

59. If wishes were primary votes, Joy Reid would make Kamala our nominee. :D

[treestar]

62. I wonder what it is

that has offended her.

I was watching her one night after the debate where Kamala pulled her stunt, and it was amazing to me how much Joy hated Biden. She couldn't stand the sound of his voice, she said. She got some people on and they were talking about it and making fun of him for saying he thought he and Harris were friends, and talking as if Harris were some serious contender for the Presidency and implying Biden wasn't.

It didn't even seem rational.

[Cha]

63. Awww.. Reid ".. couldn't stand the sound of Biden's voice.."

yeah, according to what I've been reading on her FB page it's been an ongoing thing with her Bashing Biden.. no wonder people are thinking she's calling for Biden to drop out when she didn't actually say it.. just has been promoting it.. "like an innocent bystander"

Here's the link to what some of the FB people said about her question .. "..if Biden should drop out.. "..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=280296

Thank You for that, treestar!

[Tom Rinaldo]

66. Joy has strong opinions about politics and she is not hesitant to use her platform to advance them

I've always been ambivalent about her for that reason. She is a very bright, very strong woman with values that generally align with mine. There are too few voices like hers given high profile TV gigs. But she can integrate her own views into her commentary while passing them off as general wisdom and not owning up to the fact that she is actually pushing her own take on political reality.

I find it somewhat ironic that she is now raising the ire of Biden supporters who tended not to care so much when she showed her bias against Sanders.

[Cha]

73. In the OP Reid is insulting Biden Supporters.

So yeah.. her "strong opinions" were dead wrong.. and she got pushback.

As far as her "bias against Sanders" goes and not caring.. do you care she disparages Biden?

Reid's FB..

"Our guest author Anand Giridharadas is not the only person who thinks Biden should drop out of the 2020 race after his debate comments. What do you think, #reiders? Watch and weigh in:"

LOl@first reply..

Robert Miller Biden drop out??? I thought it was a typo, and the title meant to say Castro! Castro was wrong about everything regarding his exchange with Biden. Biden knew exactly what he had said. If anyone should go, it should be Castro!

Bridget Davis Enough with the bashing of candidates. Joy everyone knows you aren't for Biden and try at every opportunity to hurt his campaign. I will vote for who ever the nominee is whether it be Biden or someone else.

https://www.facebook.com/joyreidofficial/posts/2306261106153165

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=280234

Reid doesn't have to say it directly "Biden drop out".. she's promoting it.

Maye James-Holler I don’t agree with your guest! Sure he could have handle the question better. But when i see how ALL the channels put Trump in the White House by giving him free publicity, as he lied everyday and couldn’t answer a damn question so he called people names. That didn’t bother the pundits, when Joe makes a mistake or a gaffe, oh my, lets kick him out. PLEASE!!! I’m a person of color and I’m for JOE!

Debbie Marijanovich It's obvious that many MSNBC hosts have their favorites! They have been after Biden before he even tossed his hat in the ring

Bonnie Blancett Anand Giridharadas is insufferable. I watched that interview. There was no respect for Vice President Biden. And, I'm sick of Joy having these people on with their immature points of view. All they want is purity. Have they lived seasoned lives. NO! Have they the ability to appreciate anyone before their existence. And shame on Julian Castro for daring to think he has more sway with Obama than Biden. Even Warren dodges confrontation. Did Joe melt into the background when attacked? NO! He was stunned but stood his ground. Joe would never stoop to the behavior of these jealous, self serving people. ie, Booker and Castro. He has my vote, my family's vote, and most of us are older. We know what it means to be a true Democrat.

Asiwaju Femi Falade Nonsense, Joe Biden drop out? I like Joy Reid, but one thing I have noticed about her, is that she is always happy to report negative news about Joe Biden. I am really getting tired of this so called liberal and progressive media, they like to batch their own politicians, most especially if they don't want certain politician to get to a certain position. They did the same thing with Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. They devoted about 75% of their time covering negative stories about Hillary Clinton e.g email scandal, server sandal, Benghazi scandal etc. Enough is enough.

[Tom Rinaldo]

74. "do you care she disparages Biden?" Yes.

I am not ambivalent about Reid because she has strong opinions. I am ambivalent about Reid because she uses her platform to advance her own strong opinions as "journalistic reporting" rather than owning them more directly as her personal commentary. I felt that was true with Reid regarding Bernie Sanders and I feel it is true with Reid regarding Joe Biden also. It bothers me in both cases.

[Cha]

75. Thank you for that..

I don't even have a tv.. all I know about tv pundits is what I read on DU.. and tweets.

Well said..

I am ambivalent about Reid because she uses her platform to advance her own strong opinions as "journalistic reporting" rather than owning them more directly as her personal commentary.

[Gothmog]

67. I remember this and boycotted AMJOY. Today two of her guests attacked Joe for giving a great speech

Today Joe gave a truly great speech and two of AMJOY's panelists were mad that Joe gave such a good speech. Here is all of Joe's speech today

Tiffany Cross and some guy name Jason were mad at Joe in effect because he gave such a good speech.

I will start boycotting AMJOY and will mute the TV when Cross or this Jason guy are on.

[Cha]

69. Wow!.. How could they

be "pissed" that Biden gave such an amazing speech?!!!!

Thank you, Goth!

[Gothmog]

70. They want candidates who will push fundamental change

These two idiots only want candidates who are ultra liberal and who will promise fundamental change. I will be muting the TV when these idiots are on

It is time to boycott AMJOY again

[Cha]

72. You mean like a

"revolution"? Sarandon's "Burn everything down" type "change"?

We need to get trump out FIRST.. the psycho asshole that her and her ilk helped get in there.

[katmondoo]

76. I am going to find it very difficult to watch Joy in the future

[Kahuna7]

81. I got in on that one....And she's at it again today...Today's nonsense...

Link to tweet

[Cha]

87. Oh Joy.. give it up.. We see you.

Is Joy telling Joe Biden to drop out through "surrogates"?

Link to tweet

She's digging..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Mahalo for that tweet, Kahuna.. a gold mine of pro Biden Tweets!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

84. This is disqualifying for both Reid and the candidate.

[Cha]

89. All you're doing with this

repetition is helping to kick the thread.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

90. Good. Because I like this thread

[oasis]

88. Joy believed she was crafty enough to slip her agenda past viewers

who were willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. That practice got exposed, bigtime.

Message to to Joy: You once had a decent show, so how about coming back down to Earth and we can be friends again?

[Cha]

93. Mahalo, oasis! That's a great

message to Joy.

[oasis]

94. Joy has to work at gaining back the respect I once had for her.

I'm sure I'm not the only one of her ex-fans who feel that way.

Joy's commentary continues to be one of the best when it comes to laying out the facts in the case of why Trump is not fit to be president. As far as her attempts to influence the Democratic Party primary process is concerned, Joy has really jumped the shark.

Mahalo Cha, for your strong support of Joe, who is by far our best hope of getting America back on a path to being the world's respected leader of democracy.