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Related: About this forumRep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) came out against former Vice President Joe Biden this weekend
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but she is dead wrong about Joe.
Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) came out against former Vice President Joe Biden this weekend, saying its very clear that hes the wrong choice to take on President Donald Trump in next years election.
There are few people who fit into the kind of progress that we all want to see in this country. And I would say he is not one of them, Omar told the Guardian, adding: "I think it has been very clear to many of the people who have been creating the kind of movement that is exciting generations, that we want somebody who really has a plan that is going to tackle a lot of the systematic challenges that we have, and he doesnt.
There will be no systematic changes from a "movement that is exciting generations," if the candidate who passes this muster cannot be elected, or if elected, cannot pass legistlation to further the agenda. We need to get someone elected who can get things done.
Go Joe!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,499 posts)Congresswoman addresses Iowa Peoples Presidential Forum
Elizabeth Warren overtakes Joe Biden in new Iowa poll
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/22/ilhan-omar-joe-biden-iowa-peoples-presidential-forum
At the Iowa Peoples Presidential Forum on Saturday, organisers hoped to serve up an antidote to the Polk County Steak Fry, an event a few miles down the road that drew 17 Democratic presidential candidates to deliver stump speeches and pose for selfies with 12,000 attendees.
The peoples forum, organized by a collective of grassroots groups, aimed to push progressive policy initiatives. It hosted four candidates, including Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, frontrunners in the state that will hold the first nomination ballot on 3 February next year.
Perhaps the most notable absence was that of Joe Biden, the former vice-president who Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement Action, the forum organiser, declined to invite after his campaign failed to respond to a questionnaire. Biden, a centrist in a field increasingly dominated by progressive ideas, has dropped behind Warren in the polls in Iowa for the first time.
To a number of speakers at the forum, his absence spoke volumes.
The Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar, one of four new members of the House of Representatives racially abused by Donald Trump, gave the keynote speech. She demanded a president who realises we are not just fighting for one election, we are fighting for the very soul of our democracy and what society we want to become.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
for posting the link for me... My bad!
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emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)fi4 the soul of this nation. He reminded us when speaking in Iowa of our democratic ideals and how
hostile Trump is to them.
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Jonathan Capeheart
What gave Bidens address more power was that it wasnt just a harangue against Trump. It was a reminder of who we are as a nation, the soul of America, as he called it.
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Biden
What this president doesnt understand is that unlike every other nation on earth, we're unable to define what constitutes "American" by religion, by ethnicity, or by tribe; you can't do it.
America is an idea. An idea stronger than any army, bigger than any ocean, more powerful than any dictator or tyrant. It gives hope to the most desperate people on earth
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The most powerful idea in the history of the world I think beats in the hearts of the people of this country. And it beats in all of us. No matter your race, your ethnicity. No matter your gender identity, your sexual orientation. No matter your faith. It beats in the heart of rich and poor alike. It unites America -- whether your ancestors were Native to these shores or they were brought here forcibly and enslaved, whether they were immigrants generations back, like my family from Ireland, or those coming today looking to build a better life for your family.
The American creed that we are all created equal was written long-ago. But the genius of every generation of Americans has opened it wider and wider and wider, to include those who have been excluded in a previous generation. Thats why it has never gathered dust in the history books.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/07/joe-biden-reminded-all-us-what-presidential-president-would-sound-like/
Biden has also addressed in his foreign policy speech the rise of fascism in Europe, the threat
against democracy that is spreading.
I think if Omar is going to talk about Joe she should see his launch video, listen to hi# speeches, and read abou5 his policies an$ their details.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trotsky
(49,533 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trotsky
(49,533 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lark
(23,156 posts)She's obviously not got a great understanding of the difference between drumpf and everyone else alive and what she said is just supremely stupid. I really hate purists.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,601 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rene
(1,183 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bullwinkle428
(20,630 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I certainly hope you re-think what you said...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)Try to be as decent as your candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Biden
Klobuchar
Warren
Harris
Buttigieg
Beto
No particular order.
They are the only candidates Im currently looking at as I feel they are the group of coalition builders. Each of those Ive listed have a history of coalition building. Our candidate will be one of the people listed above because of this aspect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)they are running a moderate republican against her.. and that could appeal to some independent voters who are more culturally conservative on social issues..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,264 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)She is in safe blue district with a large immigrant community.
Sorry to disappoint you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)She is well liked in her district. I lived in it for forty years. Besides, I agree with her. You don't bring the "same old" when the voters want something new. Rightly or wrongly voters don't give a shit about "experience." Look who they voted for last time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pangaia
(24,324 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FBaggins
(26,758 posts)She could lose in a primary if her personal life continues to cause challenges... but she wouldn't lost to a Republican.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)She will win against any Republican.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)BTW, you should look up that "moderate" republican that is running against her. The person is batshit crazy.
I think that Omar can be beaten by a liberal Dem that hews a bit more moderate than Omar. I would not be surprised to see a Dem emerge to challenge her, likely a liberal female Dem with political grounding in the district.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PhoenixDem
(581 posts)She is a freshman congresswoman .. she should worry about her constituents and their issues rather than getting involved in something above her jurisdiction.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But I also think the right Dem would also defeat her and win her seat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PhoenixDem
(581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)who wouldn't have a chance in Hell, let alone CD-5. No GOPer has a chance here. However, Omar might be vulnerable in a Dem primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,601 posts)Sorry, but it is what it is.
I think i'll give more credence to those who have been around a lot longer and know whats really needed to get things done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)We don't need people that are loose with words being our focal people, she ends up having to "explain" herself way to much for my liking.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,432 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lulu KC
(2,574 posts)make me think that Cambridge Analytica and its disguised successors and spinoffs are still hard at work dividing our party and its voters at every given opportunity--and there are so many during primary season.
It also makes me think that we don't need to hear everyone's opinion on every single thing. I was with her, and now I think, "No one asked you." But maybe someone did, so they could fill up the airwaves or e-waves with more division.
That's my opinion!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,408 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
It can only help him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bucolic_frolic
(43,287 posts)Lots to repair in the executive branch. Joe Biden understands the institution and the levers of power, he's been there. After Trump we don't need a novice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)but she's really not well liked anywhere else. Her endorsement would be a liability on the national stage.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I honestly am surprised that one has not announced. I had high hopes for her, but she is loose with words and just draws way too much unnecessary controversy toward her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,499 posts)So is Gabbard, AOC, etc.
We are never going to be a caucus of nothing but Cuellars and and Lipinskis. Not until we redo the Constitution to have proportional representation, at which point a centrist only Democratic Party shrinks dramatically.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I really don't think that Omar is either. I agree on AOC, despite her occasional over the line stuff, she has actually did a lot of legislating and public engagement in her district. Maybe Omar has done great things in her district, I don't know.
Also, with AOC, the only Dem in her district with enough presence to challenge her is a New York Legistlator who is a close ally of hers (they even shared campaign offices on their runs in 2018, and they have the same political worldview).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,499 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,499 posts)I will make a deal
to show you how serious I am
as long as you agree to do the same
If Gabbard and Omar are defeated in their Democratic House primaries I will delete my account and never post here again.
Will you take that same wager?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I have said what I said and will leave things at that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,499 posts)whether you chickened out or not
here is a screen shot for you to hold me to it
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,499 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
olegramps
(8,200 posts)I will only mention one: Medicare for All. I fully agree that it would be the best choice as demonstrated by those countries that these programs. However, I have read that about 170 million have private insurance, often through employers, that is certainly better than Medicare which only covers 80%. In the case of a major medical issue that requires hospitalization this can be substantial.
A case in point is my brother who has stage four lung cancer. The drug that he takes cost $14,000 a month. Yes, that is not a typo. By the way he never smoked. He requires constant monitoring due to the serious side effects that required hospitalization and expensive tests on a monthly basis resulting is substantial bills beyond what Medicare covers until the so-called donut hole is reached.
There would have to be substantial changes made to Medicare before many who are presently covered by better insurance would support a change. Given the present totally destructive policies of the Republican Party, which I have come to despise, what are the chances of passage of any kind of full coverage that is required that would convince many people to support it. Wouldn't it be more reasonable to work for improvements to the present plan, bringing in more people until it a full Medicare for All is feasible. I am not too greatly impressed by those such as Sanders and their utopian ideas who has a less than impressive track record for his years in the legislature amounting to two post offices renamed and a shoe-in vet bill.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
roody
(10,849 posts)S. 1129 is much better. It gets rid of deductibles, co pays and premiums. The taxes pay for it all.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
olegramps
(8,200 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,091 posts)Just saying who you are FOR and why you support them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
empedocles
(15,751 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Certainly entitled to her view, but it doesn't matter much.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,058 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,034 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)And republicans love that. It is unlikely that the batshit crazy republican that has announced would beat Omar in Omar's district, but a liberal democratic woman with political standing there certainly can.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)She had so much promise. But by her own choices and words, she has squandered that promise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tritsofme
(17,399 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
5starlib
(191 posts)Sounds like she is gearing up if Biden is the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Their attention getting tactics are not helping to effect change.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)who can rebuild the executive infrastructure, our alliances abroad, and who knows her or his way around world leaders, foreign policy and relations we are closer to a first nuclear war than at any other time in history. Only Joe has any real knowledge and experience in this area. Other nations,
friends and foes, are aware of this fact,
As to domestic policies? Joes are do-able and will give us progress in education, health, our infrastructure, taxation, trade, climate change etc.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)I don't care if she "backtracked" or not.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142282480
Thank you for your post, emmaverybo!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)cut it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarc
(10,476 posts)"The Squad" speaks for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PhoenixDem
(581 posts)She should be primaried and sent back to her other causes. She is not serving her constituency by getting involved in national politics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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MustLoveBeagles
(11,634 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,634 posts)I'd forgotten about that. That was out of line. I don't agree with everything she says but feel she was unfairly attacked by trump.
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Cha
(297,655 posts)but not what she says about our Dem leaders.
Politics are so complicated sometimes!
Mahalo, Beagles
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MustLoveBeagles
(11,634 posts)Your right about that.
Maholo, Cha
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)She doesn't speak for the Democratic Party
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Hekate
(90,793 posts)I'll definitely take that into account.
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emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)herself so foolishly and extremely on occasions when she does. Trumps attack on her, however, is not for what she says but arises out of his misogyny and racism.
I do take issue with what she has said about Obama and Biden. She simply is not representing the
Democratic Party responsibly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,793 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,862 posts)It's not really that steep a learning curve. WTF is up?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden