CNN report on Sanders just now.

[TidalWave46]

The campaign official wouldn't tell CNN if he was in the hospital or not. Wouldn't say which state he is in. A campaign person simply told them that he will be in the next debate. Says the campaign is being extremely quiet about the situation.

This is how it was just reported on CNN.

[NurseJackie]

1. Doesn't sound very good. I think it's more serious than they're letting on.

Doesn't sound very good. I think it's more serious than they're letting on.

A campaign person simply told them that he will be in the next debate.

I find this difficult to believe. It sounds very perfunctory, planned, rehearsed.

With this much secrecy or "evasiveness"... it's certainly reasonable for people to wonder what's being hidden, or what they're avoiding talking about.

If there was truly "nothing to see here" then they'd be much more forthcoming and transparent.

All I'm saying is... I believe this is the end of his campaign. It remains to be seen if he'll even be healthy enough to return to simply being the Senator from Vermont.

[pnwmom]

5. He should have had a full physical after his fall in the shower

instead of just going to the walk-in clinic to get stitches in his face.

If he had, they would have found the large blockage that required the two stents, and fixed him up before things got worse.

[NurseJackie]

11. You're right. The Mayo Clinic describes A-fib symptoms as including...

You're right. The Mayo Clinic describes A-fib symptoms as including the following. Looking at this list, it seems highly likely that his "slip and fall" could have been very likely precipitated by any of these things.

There's much more to this than the public is being told, I fear.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/atrial-fibrillation/symptoms-causes/syc-20350624

Symptoms

Some people with atrial fibrillation have no symptoms and are unaware of their condition until it's discovered during a physical examination. Those who do have atrial fibrillation symptoms may experience signs and symptoms such as:

• Palpitations, which are sensations of a racing, uncomfortable, irregular heartbeat or a flip-flopping in your chest
• Weakness
• Reduced ability to exercise
• Fatigue
• Lightheadedness
• Dizziness
• Shortness of breath
• Chest pain

[KitSileya]

45. You certainly lived up to your screen name, as I remember you posted your concerns at the time

You very correctly guessed that his fall in the shower was probably a symptom of something more serious, and if I recall correctly, you even posted about heart disease and its symptoms. Too bad Senator Sanders and his staff weren't as prescient.

I hope the Senator heals well, but there's no denying this puts doubts to his ability to do the most demanding job in the world - at least it is when you take it seriously, unlike the one who stole the job in 2016. We can all agree that Senator Sanders would never blow off the duties of the office of President like Trump does. In fact, the Senator has admitted that he is a micro manager, and that no decisions are taken in his office that is not run by him first. That way of working would increase an already hugely demanding job by an order of magnitude, and if you have bad health...?

[NurseJackie]

47. Excellent memory, Kit! 💙

[TidalWave46]

8. I know each case is different.

I know someone who had a heart attack had two stents put in very soon after arriving at the hospital. This many hours later the person was feeling great and was released from the hospital. It was amazing. I drove the person to the hospital and was deeply concerned they were not going to make it. 24 hrs later I was driving them home, they had energy, and they were extremely optimistic. They felt better than they had in years.

Shout out to doctors and the hospital. The persons primary care physician told me to drive to the second closest hospital to my location. Told me not to call an ambulance because an ambulance wouldn't bring her to a specific hospital. When I arrived at the hospital, there were two doctors and five nurses waiting out front. Literally out front in the drop off area. The team started assessing her while taking her out of the car. In the couple of minutes it took to get her into a special room they already had ekg and other tools attached to her. In under an hour she was in surgery. This was the most impressive teamwork I have ever seen. Everyone had a task that involved collecting data and providing it to the doctors or prepping her for surgery if it came to that, except for one person. One person was designated to talk to the patient. Keep her calm. Make sure she was understanding the doctors questions.

I went back to thank the head nurse and their team. They were amazing and difference makers.

[NurseJackie]

15. Every case IS different indeed... I had a loved-one die shortly after their stent procedure.

That's not a prediction from me, mind you... that's just a reminder that these types of things are nothing to be trifled with and every case must be taken seriously.

I just think it's transparently laughable for anyone to try to characterize this as a simple "outpatient" procedure... when CLEARLY that's not the case.

[TidalWave46]

18. I don't get the fear of transparency.

It doesn't make sense to me. People literally saying it's no ones business when a 78 year old presidential candidate is rushed to the hospital with chest pains and is still out two days later.

I am so sorry about your loved one. Truly. I feel blessed that the person I was talking about is sitting in the office next to me and doing great five years after the procedure.

[NurseJackie]

26. Thank you.

[Peregrine Took]

25. How old was this lady?

My husband has a big one in 1995 -had one stent put in.

A friend gave us the book 'Reversing Heart Disease" by Dean Ornish, MD. It saved our lives as we were so depressed - it gave us hope.
He was only 52, a daily runner, skinny etc but he did eat a pretty high fat diet in terms of dairy, sugar, meat, et al.

After he read the book he became a vegetarian, took up meditation - even became a Buddhist.

Now he's 77 still runs an hour every day in all types of weather, meditates and does yoga every day, also. - he feels great.

[TidalWave46]

28. 70 at the time of the event. 75 today.

Very happy to hear about your husband. I will never forget how I felt driving her to the hospital. I still think about it to this day. Then I get the joy of hearing her energy and voice.

[George II]

2. Seems odd that two days after being hospitalized there have been no updates whatsoever.

[FarPoint]

4. Maybe they are waiting for the campaign donation/ checks to clear...

I actually think things are going well...recovery requires clinical focus not campaign focus...the statement makes me sense that this is exactly what Bernie Sanders and his physicians are practicing....cardiac recovery.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

3. Hoping for the best for Bernie but the lack of transparency doesn't make it sound good.

[qazplm135]

6. who knows

Sanders is always very cranky with the media and answering questions. This could simply just be that kind of "it's none of your business" thing he does with the media sometimes.

Or, it could be something more.

We will find out soon enough.

Having said that, the next debate is in 12 days. That's not much time to rest up particularly if he canceled several months worth of appearances, and to stand up for two plus hours doesn't seem wise two weeks away from a serious health/heart-related incident even if it wasn't a heart attack.

But we will see soon enough.

[dweller]

7. a person's health

is a private matter, let's leave it like that ...

best wishes to Bernie

✌🏼

[TidalWave46]

9. Not when they are running for President.

That is pretty much agreed upon.

[dweller]

10. his medical emergency was announced

and reported

it's his business, and his doctor's
not the general public's

✌🏼

[TidalWave46]

12. I completely disagree.

As I'm sure an overwhelming majority of people would disagree. We would like to know the condition of 78 year old candidate who was rushed to the hospital for chest pains. I want to know the health condition of all candidates. I get that you can look past a 78 year old candidate having a health emergency and then not sharing it. Few are going to see that as a sensible position.

[Peregrine Took]

14. Well said.

Some "crepe hanging" going on here. Lets wait and see and hope for the best.

[BlueMississippi]

24. People have a right to know if they're voting for a ticking time bomb nt

[Cha]

46. Not when he's running for president in the primairies..

it's not. It's the Voters' business, too. Full Disclosure.

[whathehell]

13. It's been all of two days --Give it a rest.

He's living and says he'll be in tbe next debate. Nuff said.

[TidalWave46]

16. "Give it a rest."

How many posts on the topic do I have?

Strange line of personal attack you have.

"He's living and says he'll be in tbe next debate. Nuff said."

Not even close to enough said. We will know more soon.

[whathehell]

27. Lol

You view a suggestion to "give it a rest" as a "personal attack?

Oh my.. A tougher skin may be in order.

[redstatebluegirl]

22. No it isn't when they are running for President at his age.

I am 65, I would never say someone was to old to run, but I would also say their health and lifestyle were more important than for someone in their 40's.

[pnwmom]

23. Bernie has already promised to release his medical records because it isn't a private matter

when you're running for President.

[ritapria]

17. CNN report on Bernie

… A Vegas station is reporting he has been been released from hospital …. It's premature to hint a nefarious coverup is going on …….They are probably waiting for test results ….If he has had a heart attack , he will likely drop out- and rightfully so ...FWIW : New Emerson College Poll from Ohio : Biden 29% Bernie 27% Warren 21% ….. Both Bernie and Biden lead Trump in Ohio 53%-47% … Warren leads Trump 52% - 48% ...That's a huge turnaround from 2016 ...Trump carried Ohio by 8%

[TidalWave46]

20. Who is hinting at "a nefarious coverup" ?

You are the first person I have seen pushing that line of thought.

[ritapria]

29. Read the Posts my friend

[TidalWave46]

31. Not the easiest writing to decipher.

"It's premature to hint a nefarious coverup is going on"

I wasn't aware anyone was doing such a thing.

[ritapria]

48. MSNBS devoted a 5 minute segment to Coverup

Chris Jansing likened this "coverup" to what Hillary and her campaign did after she fell leaving a 9/11 ceremony in the Fall of 2016.... The corporate media despise Bernie ….He threatens the bottom line of their advertisers and hence their bottom line….Unlike Liz , they know he is the real deal

[LanternWaste]

34. You're confusing "imply" and "infer." Again.

[BlueMississippi]

21. No way he is released from hospital

The AHA protocol requires a minimum of 3 days of ICU monitoring after even one stent.

[LanternWaste]

33. So now simply reporting "cold" facts is good when it supports the narrative?

You move the goalposts with a deftness and quickness that speaks to experience.

[BlueMississippi]

19. What about transparency?

American people have a right to know what the real situation is.

[luvs2sing]

30. I have no doubt he feels better..

just getting the blockages taken care of would help with that. I have friends who have had this done, and they swear they’re ready to run a marathon the next day. However, actual recovery usually takes longer. I wish Bernie all the best and a swift and complete recovery.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

35. My husband has had several Stent procedures at Mayo.

He has been living with Heart Disease since 1983, Triple Bypass in 1991. In 2018, he had stents put in a Vein Graft twice. They did not work. This year, he had that artery cleaned out in 3 different procedures that required overnight stays.

It sounds as though Bernie's condition might be worse due to the sheer stress of a campaign puts on the heart. If he has to drop out, it will be because of his health. At 78, Sanders risks more serious episodes.

Stents only work for so long. There is required Cardiac Rehab, dietary changes made, medications to take, required rest to reduce physical and mental stress.

I know this from personal experience. I live with it every day.

[TidalWave46]

36. Much love to you and your husband. NT

[floppyboo]

37. Bernie is a STAR! Would Keith Richards tell the media where he was if he wanted peace and quiet?

This is completely understandable. And considerate of the neighbors.

[Nanjeanne]

38. Not sure when CNN reported such little info but the campaign has been updating frequently

It’s no secret he is in hospital in Las Vegas. Why would they say which hospital?

He is expected to be discharged this weekend and rest a few days.

This is most recent tweet

Link to tweet

[TidalWave46]

39. Not sure what time that came out.

The tweet is from after the CNN report. Maybe that’s why.

Thanks for the update.

Last person I know who had a heart attack and two stents put in was released from the hospital the next day. I wonder why they are holding Sanders. Such little information coming out. Jane at least clears up that he is still in the hospital.

[Nanjeanne]

41. Sanders did not have a heart attack. He had a blocked artery. Very different operation. Typically

when you have blocked arteries (I know family members and friends who have had it) you are in the hospital for about 2 days. I'm guessing with Sanders, they just want to be sure everything is fine before releasing him. Typically in 5 days you can resume normal routine. Maybe they figure if they release him before 5 days - he will not relax and just do nothing. Also he is in Las Vegas and has to fly home to Vermont. Maybe if he were in hospital in Vermont he would be released but flying may make them more cautious.

You know someone who had a heart attack and was released the next day???? Wow. That sucks.

[TidalWave46]

42. I didn't say he did have a heart attack.

Do you have inside info? You say he didn’t. I’m not certain. You comment shows certainty.

It actually didn’t suck at all. It was very impressive. Not only did they walk out, they felt better than they had in years. Still do after five years.

[Nanjeanne]

43. You mentioned your friend who had a heart attack so I assumed you mean Sanders did

as well.

My comment says all the reports say he had blockage in his artery and had stents put in to open blockage. Unless everyone is lying and I certainly don't think they are - he has a very common procedure to alleviate blockage.

Not sure why you are assuming I have inside info? But nothing surprises me any more.

[TidalWave46]

44. Not a good assumption.

It’s clear why I ask if you have inside info. They have said almost nothing and you seem to be certain of the details.

[TidalWave46]

40. CNN is now reporting on Janes limited comment.

Seems I was correct about the timeline.