Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton appears to suggest Russians are 'grooming' Tulsi Gabbard for third-party run
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/politics/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard/index.htmlBy Dan Merica, CNN Updated 12:01 PM ET, Fri October 18, 2019
(CNN) Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton said Friday the Russians are currently "grooming" a Democrat running in the presidential primary to run as a third-party candidate and champion their interests.
The comment appears to be directed at Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, who has been accused of being cozy with Russia in the past.
"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said, speaking on a podcast with former Obama adviser David Plouffe. "She's the favorite of the Russians."
Clinton never names Gabbard, but there are only five women running for President -- Gabbard, California Sen. Kamala Harris, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar and author Marianne Williamson -- and none of the other woman have been accused of being boosted by Russia.
"They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far," Clinton said.
Gabbard and her spokespeople did not respond to questions from CNN.
"If the nesting doll fits," Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill said when asked if the former secretary of state was referring to Gabbard.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JanetLovesObama
(548 posts)that Gabbard is in bed with Assad and Putin. Come on people. WAKE UP !
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Turin_C3PO
(14,083 posts)Again.
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Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Kind of dilutes their third-party strategy
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Cha
(297,739 posts)wrong, TG! I dare ya!
I take it as a pre-emptive strike.
Mahalo!
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Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Gabbard is another Jill Stein Player. Understand the GRU Bot network tags her every post.
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Eliot Rosewater
(31,122 posts)but we didnt DARE say it
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Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)all one in the same. Just separate groups doing the same thing.
After today,Gabbard just became fair game.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)As of two days ago, she hasn't qualified for the November debate, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)bot network and funny money.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,841 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,122 posts)I know, lets wait until it is too late.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Clash City Rocker
(3,402 posts)She talks like a Republican, not a Democrat. She echoes Republican talking points, badmouths the Democratic Party and sucks up to dictators. She comes across as Trump pretending to be a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)who are already promising to once again refuse to vote for the Democratic nominee. Last time those were about 24% of his primary support. Of that @24%, 12% voted for Trump directly, 2% refused to vote, and the rest voted third party.
His support is significantly less this time, but those who've left are mostly from the other 3/4 of good Democrats who voted Democrat and are very unhappy at the role he played in the disastrous loss to Trump and the Republicans. It is established of course, that Russia used him and his supporters to make that happen.
A technique that worked powerfully, and our intelligence services say is being repeated. I'd love to know what Hillary does. She's extremely well connected, of course.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Greybnk48
(10,177 posts)for me, there's something off about Gabbard that I couldn't put my finger on. She seems weirdly contrived.
Just an odd, irrational assessment. I hope I'm wrong.
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MBS
(9,688 posts)There's something about her that gives me the creeps.
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The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)I ask this question inquisitively. Granted, in most issues I am pretty far left and I know not all democrats are as left as I am nor do they consider themselves liberal. Regardless does Gabbard really have that much appeal to play spoiler?
Those who have seen my post will know this is no defense of Gabbard. I've been censored many times for expressing my profound distaste for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Turin_C3PO
(14,083 posts)she could definitely hurt our chances if she runs third party. Jill Stein 2.0, IMO.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....to Clinton's loss.
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Cha
(297,739 posts)Mahalo, George!
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and other dissidents with Trump's populist right to permanently overthrow the majority who elected Obama twice and Hillary once. Gabbard's "weirdly contrived" mix just happens to have something for everyone Putin's trying to pull together. It might be that she'd just be a first step, with another leader taking over later, Trump or ? or LW, as long as we were smashed and the far right ascendant.
And even without that little scheme, with the backing of the enormous forces of our enemies foreign and domestic, anyone can be built into a threat in this era when our nation is won and lost by razor-thin margins. They might find it best to run me with a bag over my head (not another old blonde?!), but I'm sure they could make me into a usable third-party leader. Just look at that whackjob Stein.
Hillary's warning provides more form to what we already knew was happening. I'm absolutely sure she has far more solid information from her connections than she's revealing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,122 posts)Rump and DOJ are working with putin to hack...
We are at war, just wish people understood that. Which is why ANY attack of any real Democrat, you know, pisses me off big time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,874 posts)...and yet she captured just enough votes to sway an election that was decided by ~80,000 out of over 130,000,000 votes cast.
And that's not even taking into account all the shit she and her supporters (and Russian troll bots) heaped on Hillary in order to depress Democratic turnout.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(6,559 posts)They already have their candidate in the White House
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PatrickforO
(14,593 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,178 posts)...I get another 'hide' if I agree with Hillary?
"If the nesting doll fits,"
...I'm not sure what that means, but I believe and trust in Hillary...
...looks like another trump/putin rigged national election is well on it's way...
...I'm already starting to question the 2020 election results...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)bashing a Democrat. I disagree with almost all of her policies, but please. Maybe I am naive, but I will not believe that any Democrat is in collusion with Putin.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Hekate
(90,841 posts)It is as serious as a heart attack. I already replied to you in another thread with links to research done in her home state. I urge you to read at least the ones that started this off.
Hillary Clinton is no fool.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,176 posts)posts if they hid everyone bashing Tulsi.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,254 posts)I know JPR is big on her along with Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
doc03
(35,382 posts)not to speak badly about fellow Democrats or else. My preference says Castro but I am really undecided I like Castro, Biden and Klobachar but have concerns about the electability of all of them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skid Rogue
(711 posts)that I'm almost certain Clinton has been researching for the last 3 years. I'm also certain, that as a former Secretary of State, she knows more about it than any of us. Hopefully, putting some daylight on it will STOP it. Thank God for Hillary!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden