
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:55 PM
backscatter712 (26,354 posts)
Democratic candidates are not clay pigeons. Support the nominee even if they're not your 1st choice.
From Facebook, credited to a Cory Burns:
Liberal Friends, listen to this right now: Democratic Nominees are not clay pigeons.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
19 replies, 4293 views
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Author | Time | Post |
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backscatter712 | Feb 2019 | OP |
elleng | Feb 2019 | #1 | |
CaliforniaPeggy | Feb 2019 | #2 | |
PTWB | Feb 2019 | #3 | |
backscatter712 | Feb 2019 | #14 | |
LonePirate | Feb 2019 | #4 | |
bhikkhu | Feb 2019 | #17 | |
Demsrule86 | Feb 2019 | #5 | |
JudyM | Feb 2019 | #6 | |
NurseJackie | Feb 2019 | #7 | |
Voltaire2 | Feb 2019 | #12 | |
TreasonousBastard | Feb 2019 | #18 | |
backscatter712 | Feb 2019 | #8 | |
BannonsLiver | Feb 2019 | #9 | |
JudyM | Feb 2019 | #10 | |
BannonsLiver | Feb 2019 | #11 | |
Voltaire2 | Feb 2019 | #13 | |
Andy823 | Feb 2019 | #15 | |
EndGOPPropaganda | Feb 2019 | #16 | |
TreasonousBastard | Feb 2019 | #19 |
Response to backscatter712 (Original post)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:57 PM
elleng (115,487 posts)
1. YES!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to backscatter712 (Original post)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:04 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (141,751 posts)
2. YOUR POST HAS NAILED IT TO THE WALL! SPOT ON.
Thank you for lifting this from FB and posting it here.
So right on, and so fucking important. I hope everyone reads it, and more importantly, agrees and acts accordingly! ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to backscatter712 (Original post)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:20 PM
PTWB (3,793 posts)
3. And keep the primaries civil. They can be spirited but be civil!!
At the end of the day we are all Dems. We need to support each other and the eventual nominee, who ever that may be.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PTWB (Reply #3)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 07:09 PM
backscatter712 (26,354 posts)
14. Exactly. We have one goal right now, and it's our last chance at it: DEFEAT TRUMP!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to backscatter712 (Original post)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:23 PM
LonePirate (12,227 posts)
4. Apart from supporters of one candidate, supporters of the others will eagerly back the nominee.
If Bernie is not the nominee, a significant number of his most vocal supporters will not support the Dem nominee, just like in 2016.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to LonePirate (Reply #4)
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:04 AM
bhikkhu (10,618 posts)
17. We'll see
From a broader perspective, his progressive policies have been adopted by the party as a whole. So it is highly likely even if he doesn't win the nomination that the one who does win will be a good representative of his policies and gain his full support.
Of course, I'm blacking out the memory of the last time around and hoping for the best...but it's still possible. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to backscatter712 (Original post)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:26 PM
Demsrule86 (59,202 posts)
5. I will support any person who wins the nomination...they are our only choice at that time...and I
will work tirelessly to elect them.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to backscatter712 (Original post)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:30 PM
JudyM (23,965 posts)
6. Except Bernie, right?
Because - even though accepted as a Dem candidate by our leadership - he isn’t an actual Dem candidate, he is too old, already had his chance, is only in it for money (cough!), etc, right? So folks should be blasting him continuously, right?
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JudyM (Reply #6)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:48 PM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
7. Nobody is smearing him. But I'll tell you what IS a smear...
So folks should be blasting him continuously, right? Nobody is "blasting" him continuously. Valid (though pointed) criticisms are difficult to hear, I agree, but these things must be deeply and thoroughly vetted now. Those things aren't "smears". But I'll tell you what IS a smear... and that's when we hear someone saying things like... Democrats are "ideologically bankrupt" and Democrats are "feeble". Obviously, that's completely untrue.
I strongly believe it's important for anyone who wants to represent the Democratic party to be someone who can unite the party and motivate the party. It simply serves no good purpose for anyone to publicly state that the Democrats are "corrupt" or that the Democratic party is an "absolute failure". Those types of smears do not unite or motivate us. And lastly, I think it's vital that we stand up to anyone who says that the Democratic party is "the party of the one-percent", or that the Democrats are the party is the "party of the elite". Again... totally false! Again, I totally understand that it can be difficult to listen to valid criticism of one's favorite candidate. But what's worse is when people make excuses for the FALSE rhetoric about the Democratic party that's regularly being bandied about. Things like that very dangerous (and demoralizing). WHAT GOOD PURPOSE does it serve for someone to make false statements that infer that there's "no difference between Democrats and Republicans." Nothing could be further from the truth! It's bullying and it erodes trust in the party and in each other. It's so harmful and I'll never hesitate to speak out against the lies. All I'm trying to say here is that these types of smears only divide us. They make us suspicious of each other and question motives and agendas. And all of those things only serve to demoralize us and weaken us as a party. It's very destructive, and anything that weakens the Democratic party only serves to benefit the GOP, and Trump, and Russia. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:47 PM
Voltaire2 (10,129 posts)
12. Lulzd.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:13 AM
TreasonousBastard (40,682 posts)
18. This is as good as the OP...
I've been hanging out at uncountable Democratic elections, protests, debates, discussions, committee meetings...
Even ran for office once myself. I have never, ever seen anything positive come out of a smear campaign. Anyone's smear campaign. Even if you started out agreeing with the smearer, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth and encourages you to step back. Maybe not support anyone, and maybe not even vote or participate at all. That is not good. A democracy only works when we are all honest and engaged. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JudyM (Reply #6)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:13 PM
backscatter712 (26,354 posts)
8. He's welcome to run under the same rules as all the other candidates.
And yes, I'll support him if he's the nominee.
I supported Bernie during the 2016 primaries. Then when he didn't win, I supported Hillary in the general. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JudyM (Reply #6)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:20 PM
BannonsLiver (13,636 posts)
9. You don't sound so "undecided" to me
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #9)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:45 PM
JudyM (23,965 posts)
10. Ha, I'm not decided but I really respect what Bernie has done to raise issues in a way that
connects with a lot of people. His principles are also mine (with a couple exceptions), and represent why I’m an ardent Dem.
One of my core concerns is the rampant spread of conflicts of interest in all three branches of government, because decent environmental, economic and social policies (and more so lately, foreign policy) hinges on influence being courted by those with money. Period. This is, IMO, why we are where we are today! Starting most stunningly with Bush v. Gore which led to Citizens United. Election fraud, environmental destruction, you name it. I’m fine with any Dem as long as conflicts of interest are taken care of. The aggressive posts against Bernie are anti-Dem despite protestations to the contrary. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JudyM (Reply #10)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:47 PM
BannonsLiver (13,636 posts)
11. Fair enough, and good post.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to backscatter712 (Original post)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:49 PM
Voltaire2 (10,129 posts)
13. agreed.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to backscatter712 (Original post)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:05 PM
Andy823 (11,455 posts)
15. Well said
I for one will support the winner, whoever it may be.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to backscatter712 (Original post)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:34 PM
EndGOPPropaganda (1,117 posts)
16. Yes! I promise right now to say only positive things.
I will not say negative things about other candidates, only positive things about my candidate
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to backscatter712 (Original post)
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:15 AM
TreasonousBastard (40,682 posts)
19. Excellent post. I hid this forum, but peek in every so often...
to see how it's going.
Glad I caught this. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |