A Guaranteed Winner - Think Outside The Box

[Think-b4-U-act]

Like the Republicans, chose someone from show business. The main job of a President is using the bully pulpit to communicate with people and get his/her programs passed. Of course, a strong VP would also be necessary. Pick experts to head the Departments in the Cabinet and rely on them. Perhaps even announcing some of them before the election. Someone like Jon Steward would have more credence than Donald Trump had when he was elected. He/she would be outsiders not contaminated by the Washington swamp and no record that can be attacked. Two of the Presidents who had the most impact as far as effecting government policy over the last 50 were Reagan and Trump. Both from show business and considered underdogs when they started.

[elleng]

1. Not a bad thought, as we need someone(s) who convey our values loudly and clearly.

Who do we have?

[Demsrule86]

3. Our candidates are fine...for Fuck's sake stop letting the GOP and media call the tune.

[Think-b4-U-act]

5. I liked Biden in the past

But I changed my mind when I saw what a terrible campaigner he was. He has lost support as the campaign has gone on. He should be running away with it, but he is not. A big red flag.

[Jane Austin]

6. Amen!

We can pick a good one from this field.

[Think-b4-U-act]

4. We need a winner most of all

Our values are saving democracy. All of our front runners have problems in the GE.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Yup. Good article about this in WaPo. Party leaders

worried..no one good enough now. Looking outside current pool. And not discounting a Hillary re-run.

[Think-b4-U-act]

8. Noooo

a Hillary re-run would be Trump's dream come true.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. Oops.

It was NYT.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/us/politics/democratic-candidates-2020.html

Clinton coy and non-committal...yet sure it's the same tempting..given she actually got more votes than nincompoop.

[Think-b4-U-act]

11. A re-match would not be good for us

She got more votes but she lost anyway.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. More

Link to tweet

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[Atticus]

2. . nt

[abqtommy]

9. I'll have to say it again: tRUMP was not elected. He assumed the title of pRESIDENT

due to reTHUG and sPUTIN ratfuckery. That and other criminal actions have resulted in an impeachment investigation. You can and should state that in your op instead of falsely claiming that tRUMP was elected when he wasn't.

[essme]

13. Raygun was the Cali Guv 67-75. Not exactly 100% pure outsider- in the "box". nt.

[Think-b4-U-act]

14. But not Washington DC

[dansolo]

15. What makes you think that a Democrat would be treated the same way as Reagan or Trump?

This is lunacy. The US President in not, and should be, merely a figurehead. Reagan and Trump were propped up by a compliant media. You are crazy if you think that a Democratic candidate would ever get the same kind of fawning treatment. This is our government, not a fucking game show.

[Think-b4-U-act]

16. In theory its not, in reality it is

You say "Reagan and Trump were propped up by a compliant media. You are crazy if you think that a Democratic candidate would ever get the same kind of fawning treatment." No, my friend, the media does not care what party a celebrity candidate belongs to, they will be fawned over. It is the front-page story since more people care about celebrities then "politicians." Any celebrity will get a gentle special type of treatment. Most people treat the campaign like a horse race. Name recognition is important, otherwise, Amy Klobuchar would be a more viable candidate. Pete is too young and I have read many AA church leaders have a problem with his lifestyle. It seems that every time a celebrity runs (in any country) for office on a national level, they win.

[LanternWaste]

19. So, you just type stuff without providing evidence supporting one allegation after another, huh?

Don't be surprised when you're afforded all the credibility you have in fact, warranted.

(Also, 'lifestyle' is a tell, doncha know...)

[Think-b4-U-act]

20. Sorry you have a problem with me

This is one of the sources I used for what I said about Buttigieg. It was not my personal belief:

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/heavy-lift-religious-black-voters-weigh-buttigieg-s-bid-n1043111

GREENVILLE, S.C. — Joe Darby, a South Carolina pastor in the African Methodist Episcopal Church, pondered a sensitive question that he knew was on the mind of his congregation. Would black voters be able to reconcile their conservative religious doctrine with voting for a gay candidate for president?

“It’s a heavy lift in the black church,” says Darby, who is also a Charleston-area NAACP leader. “Just as nobody who is racist likes to say, ‘I’m a racist,’ nobody who is homophobic in the black community likes to say, ‘I’m homophobic.’”

I do not know what other allegations you may be talking about.

[Politicub]

29. You know, that excuse is getting pretty tired.

And, I think of the city councilman in Tennessee who was trending on Twitter yesterday for calling Buttigieg a queer. Should we listen to him? After all, he's a representative of the wretched rural folk who may vote democratic if we can only understand them better. Hogwash.

We need to resist falling into the trap of dismissing a nominee because we're afraid someone won't like him or her because of a characteristic such as race, disability status, ethnicity, gender identity or sexual orientation. By its very nature, that kind of thinking is discriminatory. It pre-supposes that someone isn't enough because of an immutable characteristic. We are better than that as a party.

Before you bother posting survey results or something like that, I'll save you some time by giving my response now: the polls say one thing today, but they have a way of changing as the race gets tighter. Biden has an advantage, and I think he'll retain it as the primaries roll on.

But in the unlikely event he does not become the nominee, don't insult the intelligence of any community by posting anecdotal accounts from one off articles and accusing people of being discriminatory.

We Democrats all know we are in the fight of our lives to rescue the soul of this country. Our party embraces diversity. It is one of our strongest virtues. Don't discount it and dismiss it.

[SKKY]

17. Great. Let's just turn our election into one big episode of Black Mirror...

...Um. No thanks.

[Think-b4-U-act]

18. It is not what we want

But given our present candidates, none of whom I believe can defeat Trump, it is what we may need. What about Jimmy Kimmel, who many gave credit for helping save Obama-care when it was under attack by the newly elected Republicans.

[SKKY]

34. Ok, here's why I think you're wrong...

..a crap candidate, running a crap campaign against an “insurgent” candidate who caught fire at the perfect time, and still only lost by 77,740 votes. Now, 8.4 million 2012 Obama voters switch to Trump in 2016. Do you think Trump will be able to thread that needle again? No, of course not. The top 6 candidates will beat Trump in a general. Every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

[peggysue2]

21. So, we're returning to the Oprah or The Rock suggestions?

No, just no!

The media narrative is always: Dems in disarray, Dems in a funk over their candidates, Dems involved in a circular firing squad, etc.. etc., etc.

Please! The Office of the Presidency is not an episode in Reality TV. Unless, you're a fan of Trump.

What we desperately need is competency, hands-on experience and knowledge to put the country back on the rails. As I've said before: you need entertainment? Go to a damn amusement park.

We are staring into the abyss with GOP leadership quite happy to go the fascist route. The last thing we need is a light-weight, no governmental experience candidate. We're getting the bitter taste of that right now from Donald Trump.

And btw, no candidate in the Universe is without flaws which won't come to the fore in the Age of Social Media. We all carry around the baggage of living; making right and wrong decisions; having tough, uncomfortable moments that are far less than Profiles in Courage.

It's called being human.

I wouldn't want an entertainer to take out my gallbladder or pilot the plane I'm flying in or represent me in a court of law. Because expertise and knowledge actually mean something, despite what the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus might say.

I also refuse to accept the Republican framing on this proposal: Reagan/Trump as examples? Cut me a break!

[peggysue2]

26. You might check out Joe's poll numbers this week

They're actually quite good, so the news of his demise is premature.

As for who can win against Trump? We have several candidates besting Trump in the polls, Biden leading the pack at the moment. Which is why, of course, Trump was so eager to set up the Ukraine investigation, have Zelensky make a public statement from which Trump could create doubt and confusion and all matter of smear. Presumably, this was because Trump feared Joe Biden would beat him in the midwest killing his 2nd-term chances.

You might doubt Biden and the rest of our candidates but I don't. Trump will be defeated by his own stupidity and arrogance.

As far as ''putting off the fight for the soul of our country.''

What the fuck are you talking about? Without a soul, we have no country. It's what this election is all about. Will we be a country following the rule of law? Or will we be a country following the corrupt interests of one demented man. Hello? The election of 2020 will ultimately be a referendum on Donald Trump. Not a sing-off.

Sorry, but this is the dumbest idea I've read yet.

[peggysue2]

33. Sorry, I misread your line

But still, I simply do not agree that we fish in the entertainment pools for a presidential candidate. We have that right now squatting in the WH.

So, no thank you.

[MineralMan]

23. I don't think so. I've never even heard of John Steward, anyhow.

Politics is a complex thing. I'm not sure you have thought this through thoroughly, somehow. Why would we want to act like the Republicans?

[MineralMan]

25. Ah, you mean John Stewart.

OK, gotcha.

When you misspell names, don't be surprised if your point is not made.

[Politicub]

30. "We must act like them in this campaign." Did you really just say that?

No. Never should we "act" like republicans. For one thing, trying to be "more republican" does not have a strong track record when it comes to people who win democratic races.

But more importantly, we will win by being authentically who we are as a party and as individuals. We should take advantage of every channel -- broadcast, print, social media, direct mail, canvassing -- as it comes to gaining visibility.

Our stories of ourselves are our advantage. Not being some second-rate republican facsimile.

[Newest Reality]

27. I have had more than enough...

I have had more than enough reality TV show politics. It is getting to be an absurd reflection of the worst we are and have.

I am not against "outsiders", but a job has certain qualifications and requirements. I am by no means an establishment/Status Quo person, but having a plumber wire your house is not necessarily a good idea.