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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:18 PM Oct 2019

Warren cutting into Biden's lead in new SC 2020 Democratic poll

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, surging nationally in recent weeks, is cutting into former Vice President Joe Biden’s lead in South Carolina’s Democratic presidential primary, a new poll shows.
Warren has taken leads in other early voting states Iowa and New Hampshire as Biden has struggled in debates and with questions about his son serving on foreign company boards.

Still, one constant remains: Biden is the top choice in the South’s first primary.

But Biden’s lead in South Carolina, which had hovered around 20 percentage points since the summer, has shrunk in a Post and Courier-Change Research poll released Thursday.

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders at 13 percent and California Sen. Kamala Harris at 11 percent are the only two other candidates with double-digit results in South Carolina.

Biden’s support in Post and Courier-Change Research polls has fallen from a peak of 46 percent in May, soon after he formally entered the race. He lost 6 percentage points from the last poll taken in August.

The latest survey shows that Biden took a hit among women, especially African-Americans, months before the Feb. 29 primary.

He lost 13 percentage points among the crucial bloc who are part of the majority of S.C. Democratic primary voters. Biden is down 10 percentage points among all S.C. women.

https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/warren-cutting-into-biden-s-lead-in-new-sc-democratic/article_3738ef56-f69f-11e9-97d4-9ff73bd65e23.html

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Warren cutting into Biden's lead in new SC 2020 Democratic poll (Original Post) bluewater Oct 2019 OP
Decent poll (it is South Carolina after all) for Pete, up to 9%! Celerity Oct 2019 #1
Yes, a good poll for Pete. bluewater Oct 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Oct 2019 #3
Bad math: 30% - 19% is 11%. Biden's lead in SC shrunk to 11% in this poll. HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #4
I was never good at math, especially w out sufficient caffeine lol. Thanks for the correction! emulatorloo Oct 2019 #5
We all make those little mistakes from time to time, Hav Oct 2019 #6
We all make mistakes. bluewater Oct 2019 #7
"no need to go on like that" HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #8
We all make those little mistakes bluewater Oct 2019 #9
I'd be more excited about this polling business if I knew that we were guaranteed a abqtommy Oct 2019 #10
 

Celerity

(43,239 posts)
1. Decent poll (it is South Carolina after all) for Pete, up to 9%!
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:25 PM
Oct 2019
The biggest gains in the latest poll came from fifth- and sixth-place contenders, South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg and billionaire hedge fund manager Tom Steyer.

Buttigieg received 9 percent support, while Steyer, a constant presence on S.C. airwaves, nabbed 5 percent. Both added 4 percentage points since August.


Nice poll for Harris too, double digits.
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
2. Yes, a good poll for Pete.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:27 PM
Oct 2019

Personally, I never bought into the "Southern Black Church Ladies dislike Pete" narrative.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to bluewater (Original post)

 
4. Bad math: 30% - 19% is 11%. Biden's lead in SC shrunk to 11% in this poll.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:47 PM
Oct 2019

You posted this bad math:

So per the article Biden used to be at +20 percent.

Now he is at 30 percent to Warren’s 19 percent. Which means Biden is now at +21 percent.


But...

30% - 19% = 11%. not 21%

So, Biden's lead has shrunk, in this poll, to 11% over Warren in South Carolina.

That's a big crack in Joe's Southern Firewall, don't you think?
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emulatorloo

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5. I was never good at math, especially w out sufficient caffeine lol. Thanks for the correction!
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:51 PM
Oct 2019

I’ll delete my dumb post.

FWIW my top three are Warren Biden and Buttigieg. Excited about all of them.

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Hav

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6. We all make those little mistakes from time to time,
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:52 PM
Oct 2019

no need to go on like that and also edit the post to include the post of the OP in case the poster wants to correct his mistake. A gentle hint would have been sufficient for such a minor thing.

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bluewater

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7. We all make mistakes.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:57 PM
Oct 2019

But clarity matters when pointing them out.

Providing context is usually considered a good thing.

In any case, the poster decided to self-delete, which makes including the original context seem even more appropriate.

But all in all... a tempest in a tea cup all around.

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8. "no need to go on like that"
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:09 PM
Oct 2019

Well I didn't think it was "going on", but, being responsive to concerns for decorum, I removed the "WOW" from the post title.


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bluewater

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9. We all make those little mistakes
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:13 PM
Oct 2019

Your minorly overly robust reply is the type of thing that happens a lot, no need to fret about it.

Thank you for pointing out the math mistake. There is quite a difference between a +21% Biden lead and a +11% one.

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abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
10. I'd be more excited about this polling business if I knew that we were guaranteed a
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:02 PM
Oct 2019

fair and secure election.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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