Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumDo single candidate Super Pacs need that candidate's permission to form?
Foe example, Elizabeth Warren has two inactive Super Pacs, did those need her permission to be formed?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LonePirate
(13,420 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)so it seems doubtful.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Officially no. But it's easy to understand why it sometimes can seem as though they do. Although a candidate cannot coordinate expenditures with a super PAC (tell the PAC where an ad might be placed, whether the ad should be positive or negative, or what voters canvassers should contact), there's no law that says a candidate can't have connections with a the entities backing his or her election. Many super PACs such as the one supporting Romney, the pro-Newt Gingrich Winning Our Future, and Priorities USA, which backs President Obama are run by former top aides of the candidates. And candidates can headline fundraisers for the super PACs that are supporting them (as Romney has) so long as they don't ask for donations beyond the legal limits permitted for their own campaign committees. Donors are free to write larger checks and super PAC staffers are free to ask for them, but as long as the candidate abides by federal campaign limits or doesnt actually ask for funds. its all kosher. Bottom line: There's a legal prohibition against candidates' coordinating with super PACs but the FEC has been exceedingly lenient in defining what constitutes coordination, as University of California law professor Rick Hasen pithily outlines in his Election Law Blog.
Anything except contribute directly to, or coordinate expenditures with, candidates and candidate committees. They can pay for any typical political expenditure, and then some. Super PACs can and do pay for television ads, phone banks, canvassers and bumper stickers. In other words, they can act as a shadow campaign.
https://sunlightfoundation.com/2012/01/31/nine-things-you-need-know-about-super-pacs/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)and that the designers of these monstrosities had every intention of it happening.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)By law, SuperPACs and candidates can't coordinate together so maybe that plays into it? There's ways around that law though so who knows.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....contribute to any candidates whatsoever. They can't coordinate with any candidates or candidate committees:
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/super-pac?s=t
a type of PAC that has no limitations on the amount or source of donations, though it cannot contribute directly to a political campaign or party.
A proclamation by a candidate that he/she "will not accept any money from a Super PAC" is a moot point - they can't even if they wanted to.
But it makes for good sound bites.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RudyColludie
(43 posts)Earlier this year, the former vice president and his campaign disavowed a potential super-PAC, a fundraising tool into which wealthy donors could contribute unlimited amounts of money.
But with cash relatively low and with President Donald Trump consistently attacking Biden and son Hunters overseas business ties, Bidens campaign said last week that it would no longer stand in the way of the creation of a super-PAC. A handful of political strategists have been preparing such a group and reaching out to potential donors ahead of a formal launch.
I cannot stop them if I wanted to stop them. Its their right to do it, Biden said Sunday. Hes previously called for a constitutional amendment to reverse the Supreme Courts Citizens United decision and stressed Sunday that if hes elected, hell continue his decades-old push for public financing of elections.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-27/biden-suggests-he-d-be-a-one-term-president-campaign-update
the answer is No, the candidate can't stop it.
It's Biden Time!
Vote Joe or Trump won't Go!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)..."Paid for by XXXX, not associated with any candidate or committee"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,342 posts)HeartlandProgressive, Bluewater and RudyColludie.
Wasn't it enough tat you discredited yourself already?
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287325703#post38
Now you are stirring shit in Warren's pot. Nice.
On edit to the jury, in case I get alerted: I am not being disrespectful to a DU member, I am bringing attention to the poster who is being disrespectful to the DU community.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HeartlandProgressive
(294 posts)Ok...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,342 posts)I post where and when I please, subject to DU rules. And I will post instances of abuse of forums by unscrupulous players whenever I see it.
Sorry for the inconvenience. Deal with it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HeartlandProgressive
(294 posts)Journal Archives
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Seems you are only active in election years? And then mostly posting anti-Sanders posts?
That's totally normal.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,342 posts)... my record! My activity includes 2017, 2018 and 2019. Can you please tell me which one(s) of those years are election years? And me posting mostly anti-Sanders posts is just an outright lie.
But look who is talking, "HeartlandProgressive"! Have you checked your journal lately? You've been active since ... 2019! October of 2019, to be precise. That's hilarious!
The least you could have done was to post as Bluewatar (keep RudyColludie out of this, his journal is even more suspect), so your record wouldn't look so laughable compared to the one you insinuate to be somehow flawed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HeartlandProgressive
(294 posts)How many anti-Sanders posts are in there? I lost count.
But a lot of people mostly post anti-Sanders posts, so that's normal.
And many, um, people are only interested in posting on DU during election time, so that is totally normal too.
Just like me. Right?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,342 posts)You lost count, so your innuendo lacks any substance or context. Which makes your suggestion that I mostly post anti-Sanders post totally made up.
As far as what you may or may not consider normal, that's your business. I have no obligation to indulge your capricious musings. They have no relation to my record. It's a factual thing, you know. Snark is a poor substitute for facts.
And I am not sure which "you" you are talking about, but I am not interested in what you think of "yourself". Your record speaks for itself, as is mine.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HeartlandProgressive
(294 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluewater
(5,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,342 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)It would be illegal for a candidate to coordinate or attempt to control a super pac.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden