Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBiden: not in politics for the money. Never has been.
"I entered as one of the poorest men in Congress, left one of the poorest men in government, in Congress and as vice president."
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/oct/30/joe-biden/fact-checking-joe-bidens-claim-hes-among-poorest-g/
A man of unquestionable integrity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,823 posts)If Joe Biden were corrupt or guilty of all the fraudulent dealings the Trumpsters have charged then he was pretty piss poor at being a crook. The question would be: where's the beef? It's certainly not in Biden's bank account. Or anywhere else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,231 posts)Bashing Biden has become a pretty lucrative enterprise for many.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)He made four and a half million in 2018.
Anyone can google his net worth. He is not poor by any means, nor is he middle class.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Poor' is an absolute.
"Poorest' (as well as 'poorer') is relative to an implicit subject.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Relative, indeed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)The word "poor" doesn't mean having less money than the guy next to you, it means lacking sufficient income to maintain a normative standard of living. "Poorer" most accurately relates two or more subjects who, though they may differ in the worth of their overall assets, nevertheless belong to a decidedly deprived economic stratum.
You wouldn't say Bill Gates is "poorer" than Jeff Bezos. You would say he's "less wealthy".
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Spot on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I guess I am poor relatively, but I am also pretty wealthy relatively.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)He left government on January 20, 2017, almost three years ago. No need for Google, all of his tax returns for the last 21 years are here (he didn't have to be cajoled to release them)
https://www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns
He was a PRIVATE citizen in 2018 and still is a private citizen. He didn't say he was a poor man today, but he didn't make $2M in his last two years in government.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,231 posts)Biden's net worth was $6,050 in 1973; negative -$47,494 in 2005; negative -$12,492 in 2006; negative -$52,493 in 2007; negative -$947,987 in 2014; negative -$947,987 in 2015; and between $2.14 million and $7.92 million as of July 2019. In other words, he has been dirt poor for all but the last four years of his long life, the four years outside of his public service.
Your 2018 estimate roughly checks out with these numbers, but it doesn't give a complete picture of his income history.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Polybius
(15,334 posts)Just because he had negative numbers doesn't mean everything, it just means he stupidly lived well above his salary. He could still buy more things than someone making $150,000 a year can buy.
Sorta like a boxer that's worth $100 million and buys a $110 million dollar home via loan. He'd be in negative numbers but can still easily spend millions.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,231 posts)The choice is yours. It will not affect Biden's integrity one bit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Doubt hes ever known what its like to be poor.
I like Biden, wish hed stop with this kind of thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not even close.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)he decided then that he would never buy stocks or bonds because they so often raise questions of influence. And he hasn't, a decision that has to have cost him literal fortunes in this period of great wealth run-up. (Note that insider trading is trading on information not publicly known, not listening to ethical chat at gatherings by people making big things happen.)
What investments Biden has made have been in real estate, mostly his own homes. He's fond of fixing up old houses and, when younger at least, enjoyed working on them himself.
That $4 million, btw, is paltry for someone who's been a congressman and then U.S. senator for 5 decades. But salaries often don't cover much more than expenses. His wife, of course, was a schoolteacher for most of her working years, and we know how greedy and overpaid they are.
Much of their estate is going to be from appreciation related to their residences in areas where even people who bought a 1400 sqft cracker box 30 years ago can be at least technically millionaires as a result. But any real estate investments should have shown at least a nice appreciation over this period.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden