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blm

(113,057 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:36 PM Nov 2019

Warren has a Medicare for All calculator at her site.

https://elizabethwarren.com/calculator/medicare-for-all

I separated out my share from my husband and daughter. I’ll do it again as family when I locate the figures. I know we’re still making payments on two oral surgeries for little blm. And a tonsillectomy.

My result:

You’d bring home an estimated $2,575 more per year under Elizabeth’s Medicare for All plan.
That’s because you won’t have to pay for premiums or copays or any of the other ways health insurance companies stick you with the bill. What’s more, Elizabeth’s plan for Medicare for All doesn’t raise middle-class taxes by one penny.

Last year, 40 million people didn’t go to a doctor to check out a health problem because of costs, and 36 million people skipped a recommended test, treatment, or follow-up because of costs. Under Elizabeth’s plan, nobody will have to choose between their health and paying their bills.
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Warren has a Medicare for All calculator at her site. (Original Post) blm Nov 2019 OP
Family result: 12,378 blm Nov 2019 #1
Bring home from where? Your employer is going to pay you more? wasupaloopa Nov 2019 #9
So I supposedly will pay zero for healthcare Fresh_Start Nov 2019 #2
I would say try again. blm Nov 2019 #3
I pay for the family Fresh_Start Nov 2019 #6
I punched in 24000 for family blm Nov 2019 #7
Does the MFA calculator measure her chances of winning general election? Let me save everyone some Hoyt Nov 2019 #4
Yes, calling it a "calculator" is a stretch caraher Nov 2019 #8
Also, that even with insurance many people skip treatment blm Nov 2019 #10
A New Generation of Activist Doctors Is Fighting for Medicare for All BeckyDem Nov 2019 #5
I like Warren, but that calculator seems useless. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2019 #11
I agree TexasBushwhacker Nov 2019 #12
 

blm

(113,057 posts)
1. Family result: 12,378
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:41 PM
Nov 2019

You’d bring home an estimated $12,378 more per year under Elizabeth’s Medicare for All plan.

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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
9. Bring home from where? Your employer is going to pay you more?
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:38 PM
Nov 2019
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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
2. So I supposedly will pay zero for healthcare
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:49 PM
Nov 2019

since the application basically asked me what I spend and responded I would get it all back.

Something for nothing seems like BS.

And Warren is my choice so I'm really disappointed that this is just blowing smoke at me

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blm

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3. I would say try again.
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:55 PM
Nov 2019

When it happened to me it was because I hit family button instead of individual, so I punched it again.

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Fresh_Start

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6. I pay for the family
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:03 PM
Nov 2019

and will still need for the family.

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blm

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7. I punched in 24000 for family
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:06 PM
Nov 2019

and it came back with a 12,378 saving.

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Hoyt

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4. Does the MFA calculator measure her chances of winning general election? Let me save everyone some
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:56 PM
Nov 2019

trouble using the "MFA Calculator."

Whatever you put into the "MFA Calculator" as healthcare expenditures, is what it says you'll save. I'll leave it at that.

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caraher

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8. Yes, calling it a "calculator" is a stretch
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:06 PM
Nov 2019

I think this mainly is supposed to remind people that their health care does cost them money personally, even now, even if insured

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blm

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10. Also, that even with insurance many people skip treatment
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 08:19 PM
Nov 2019

and are still fearful of mounting out-of-pocket costs.

People like to mock her, even here, as if she doesn’t understand the math, but, the math and the policies behind the math is exactly what she does understand.

Jamie Dimon and his financial industry pals know it for damn sure.

Warren spent years researching why middle class and working families go bankrupt, and she can spot exactly how the policies favored by health insurance industry and financial industry were rigged against the average working family.

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BeckyDem

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5. A New Generation of Activist Doctors Is Fighting for Medicare for All
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 06:57 PM
Nov 2019

By Abigail Abrams
TIME, October 24, 2019

Miriam Callahan remembers the patient who clarified her decision to become a political activist. He was homeless, suffered from severe arthritis in his hip and was self-medicating with fistfuls of Advil. That gave him a bleeding gastric ulcer that landed him in the emergency room at a public hospital. Callahan, who is a medical student at Columbia University, and her colleagues patched him up and sent him back to the shelter, where he began self–medicating once again. He was stuck in a horrific cycle. Arthritis isn’t a disease that should kill people, Callahan says, but in this case, it was becoming a real possibility. “It’s immoral,” she says, “the way that we treat people in this country.”

In the months since seeing that patient, Callahan has channeled her frustration into political organizing—and she’s hardly alone among her fellow medical professionals. With roughly 27.5 million Americans uninsured and nearly 80 million struggling with medical bills, doctors, nurses, medical students and other patient-facing professionals are finding themselves on the front lines of a broken system. Like Callahan, many are looking for ways to fix it. The result is that the medical field, which was once one of the most conservative professions, is becoming an unlikely hotbed of progressive political activity. One of these advocates’ top goals? Single-payer health care, now known most often by its politically charged nickname: Medicare for All.

“I don’t think I can just be a patient advocate at the bedside,” says Deb Quinto, a 38-year-old nurse in California who has canvassed in support of Medicare for All. “It’s our job to protect our community and to protect any threat to their health.”

https://pnhp.org/news/a-new-generation-of-activist-doctors-is-fighting-for-medicare-for-all/

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Buckeye_Democrat

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11. I like Warren, but that calculator seems useless.
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 08:24 PM
Nov 2019

It didn't ask for my income at all. It only asked what I paid for my insurance, and then stated that I'd save the exact same amount each year.

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TexasBushwhacker

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12. I agree
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 09:31 PM
Nov 2019

It also doesn't cover a pretty big group - the owners of small businesses. I work for a CPA who has one official employee, but I work full time for him through a temp service and he has another accountant that works for him primarily during tax season. He pays over $1800 a month for his wife (57) and himself (61), plus deductibles and copays. Sure, it's paid by his company, but he IS his company. His gross income is probably under $250K. Is that still middle class?

I really like Warren, but I think some form of a public option is more practical.

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