Hillary Clinton almost ran on a Universal Basic Income

[redqueen]

WOW - I had no idea...

I wonder if Dems would have had the same reaction to her version of this idea they did for Yang's.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

1. Maybe Hillary will endorse Yang... unless she throws her hat into the ring.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[demmiblue]

3. Lol!

[redqueen]

4. Classy!

[demmiblue]

5. Thank you!

[StevieM]

6. For the last time...she is not considering throwing her hat into the ring.

She has said many times that she is not running. She has never waivered.

Our field is set. Which is unfortunate IMO because I still want Al Franken to run.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

8. Talk to Bill!! I think it's 50/50 Hillary runs, depending on whether Biden continues to fade.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[StevieM]

10. It's more like 0/100 that she runs.

And there is a limit to how much Biden will fade by. He still has tremendous support in South Carolina.

For all we know Buttigieg will win Iowa, Sanders will win New Hampshire, Warren will win Nevada and Biden will win South Carolina.

[BlueMTexpat]

14. Hillary will NOT

throw her hat into the ring.

And she will likely endorse NO candidate before the Dem primaries have run their course.

JMO, but I believe that it is an informed one, based on the class act that Hillary is.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

15. Wait, are you saying or implying that it wouldn't be classy for Hillary to run? I don't want to...

put words in your mouth, so I'm just asking. In either case, it's fine, but I'm curious why you might think that, if indeed that's what you're saying.

I actually hope Hillary DOES run, as Bill (and Hillary) recently seemed to imply was at least a possibility... one that I believe is a 50-50 chance.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[BlueMTexpat]

18. She won't.

Many STILL have never grasped how hard it was to convince her to run in 2016.

We had groups seriously lobbying for her and trying to persuade her to run since late 2014-early 2015. I know this because one very serious group even came to Geneva, Swtizerland in Spring 2015 and we had an excellent turnout of Dems Abroad here for her reps.

Hillary is well aware of all the RW hate groups that will come out in force specifically against her again - and this is even BEFORE the Russian bots start in on her.

To my knowledge, there have been no groups such as those pre-2016 seriously lobbying for her to run in the 2020 election. Yes, there have been rumors or hints.

But that's all they will remain, IMO.

Unless something very unexpected happens with the Dem candidates who are currently in the top tier. Frankly, I don't see that happening.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

20. Okay, I see what you're saying... respect. But, here's what I'm trying to say...

IF - and you may think it's a BIG IF, but I don't - Joe continues to falter in the polls and it looks like he'll lose the initial primary contests, especially if he comes in 3rd or 4th in them, THEN the odds of Hillary jumping in the race go up DRAMATICALLY. Certainly, you can see that... that's all I'm saying.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[BlueMTexpat]

21. Yes, I see what you're

saying. But the thing is that Hillary is more left than Biden is. So long as Warren is doing well, Hillary will not jump in.

JMO

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

22. I actually hope you're RIGHT, as I believe Elizabeth, if nominated, would have a far better chance

of defeating Dolt45 than Hillary, and, finally, breaking the "glass ceiling. IMHO, Elizabeth could be the most competent candidate, with the greatest political acumen, to ever run for President in my lifetime.

Nice talkin' with you... all the best!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[aikoaiko]

2. Too bad she didn't. Could have changed the game.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

9. Yes, Hillary would have crushed Dolt45 had she adopted UBI and other true progressive policies.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[StevieM]

11. Again, I disagree. She would have crushed Trump had it not been for James Comey.

And with Comey doing his damage, there was no platform she could have run on which would have allowed for victory.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. It's clear, had Hillary gone with her political instincts & adopted more progressive policies...

she would have demolished tRumpy. Indeed, Biden is making the same misstake by going with his moderate incrementalist approach, which is why Bernie & Elizabeth will cruise to victory with their bold, forward-looking progressive agenda!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[StevieM]

7. If she had run on this, people would still have said that she stood for no change.

That was a label she got tagged with, in a way that Joe Biden and John Kerry did not, because she was a former first lady who dared to try to go back to the White House as president. It was about saying that as a Clinton she could not represent change. In other words, it was about an insistence on viewing her as Bill Clinton's wife running for president, rather than a political figure in her own right.

Running on universal basic income, or single payer health care, would not have affected that.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. I completely disagree, but then, well never know...

unless Hillary runs again and, in doing so, adopts a more progressive agenda that the working class is demanding. Bernie and Elizabeth get it... perhaps Hillary will come around to their way of thinking.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[dsc]

16. My main problem with Yang's proposal is that he would eliminate other anti poverty programs

if she would be doing the same thing, I would have the same problem. My problem with hers as outlined here is tying it to extraction of natural resources. I don't want to see anything that would encourage that.

[redqueen]

17. His goal isn't to eliminate other programs, though.

His version of UBI stacks with many types of benefits. The only change to existing benefit programs would be due to attrition from people who choose to forgo those benefits in favor of UBI.

That same change is included as an expected reduction in current costs in Bernie's FJG program. It's just different ways to get there.

[LongtimeAZDem]

19. She was defeated by a smear campaign by the right aided by a smear campaign by the left

UBI would not have changed that.