Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWashington Post: "Sirota's undisclosed connection to Sanders is a breach of journalistic ethics"
Washington Post (March 20, 3019):
Sirotas undisclosed connection to Sanders is a breach of journalistic ethics. The basic rule is that journalists are supposed to be free of any personal or financial relationship with those they cover or comment on, even an informal relationship, as Sanderss campaign has described Sirotas pre-hiring role. Alternatively, reporters are obligated to at least disclose such relationships so that readers or viewers can evaluate the integrity of the reporting for themselves.
Sirota, 43, not only didnt mention his relationship with Sanders campaign but apparently sought to erase his long history of attacks against Sanders opponents. Just hours before his hiring by Sanders was announced, Sirota deleted about 20,000 or so of his tweets. He suggested that the timing of the mass deletion was coincidental, telling the Atlantic that his account was scrubbed by an autodeleter that periodically and automatically removes his posts.
It remains unclear how long Sirota advised the Sanders camp before his hiring. Neither Sirota nor Sanders representatives responded to multiple requests for comment on Wednesday.
Sirotas vitriolic tweets and blog posts also appear to be at odds with the ethos of the Sanders campaign, which has stressed that it will respectfully engage other Democratic candidates. His hiring as a speechwriter also appears to be an acknowledgment that Sanders, whose extemporaneous public remarks have been a sign of his authenticity, will at times be scripted like other politicians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/a-bernie-sanders-supporter-and-journalist-had-a-secret-he-kept-from-his-readers/2019/03/20/063aabee-4b26-11e9-b79a-961983b7e0cd_story.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(319,069 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,984 posts)Such vile lies about our candidadates belong with the GOP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(319,069 posts)does he feel the necessity to hire 3rd party "attack dogs".. and one who has breached "journalistic integrity"?
It sounds like he's desperate.. and this early out!
I appreciate the Light is getting Shone on this, tho.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(19,251 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(84,263 posts)Fox News
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,984 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(13,045 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)"Sirotas vitriolic tweets and blog posts also appear to be at odds with the ethos of the Sanders campaign"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,955 posts)perfectly represent Bernie's campaign ethos.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Beakybird
(3,397 posts)Someone who would hire someone with such little respect for ethics scares me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(319,069 posts)"the end justify the means" state of mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
to find a nice way to say that.
Busted!
Yours is better
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)there is no questioning.
Especially when that individual does not tolerate any questioning or dissent.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(319,069 posts)scary shite.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)any dissent or questions seems like an ATTACK!!!!
Clearly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)So I'm sure it will be like a homecoming at old home week.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Extremists don't lack principles. Quite the contrary -- they're intensely righteous and know that only they are wise enough to know the truth and that "only we can fix it." For them, there is always an existential crisis that requires them to ignore petty ethics and act ruthlessly for everyone's good.
That's all actually paraphrased from a textbook definition.
Poor Sanders. After a lifetime of greatness wholly unrecognized by his peers, no wonder he's habitually cranky and bad-tempered.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,328 posts)Almost...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)Journalist, my ass
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(179,849 posts)Link to tweet
Sirota, 43, not only didnt mention his relationship with Sanderss campaign but apparently sought to erase his long history of attacks against Sanderss opponents, according to the Atlantic. Just hours before his hiring by Sanders was announced, Sirota deleted about 20,000 or so of his tweets. He suggested that the timing of the mass deletion was coincidental, telling the Atlantic that his account was scrubbed by an autodeleter that periodically and automatically removes his posts.
It remains unclear how long Sirota advised the Sanders camp before his hiring. Neither Sirota nor Sanderss representatives responded to multiple requests for comment on Wednesday.
Sirotas vitriolic tweets and blog posts also appear to be at odds with the ethos of the Sanderss campaign, which has stressed that it will respectfully engage other Democratic candidates. His hiring as a speechwriter also appears to be an acknowledgment that Sanders, whose extemporaneous public remarks have been a sign of his authenticity, will at times be scripted like other politicians.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mentalslavery
(463 posts)im super concerned about this scandal and sure it will sink bernies campaign....
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,720 posts)Because it raises the question, what else is he hiding? Sirota's secret reflects badly on the whole campaign which relies on the notion that Sanders is a better breed of pol. Well, it seems he isn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mentalslavery
(463 posts)and don't care about scandals....evidence....trump....
have the best policies....or at least appear to....and you win.....
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(17,984 posts)other Democrats with unethical journalistic relationships. If policy is all people want, then quit the hatchet jobs on good Democrats and just talk about your goodies.
Obviously there is something more to Sanders motives.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mentalslavery
(463 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,720 posts)But he needs to expand his base dramatically to win the primaries and would need to expand it again to win the general. The problem there is that voters on board with the scorched-earth approach already have their guy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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ucrdem
(15,720 posts)Once it became a race though voters got serious and lined up behind Clinton. I saw it happen in California. Bernie's crowd's were a small fraction of what was reported and he was soundly beaten. And that will happen here again with Kamala and all the other better choices who will be on the ballot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)but maybe you get your info from memes, much as you speak of "data":
Virgin Islands Clinton:87.1% Sanders: 12.9% (result Clinton +74.2)
Puerto Rico Clinton:59.4% Sanders: 37.5% (result Clinton +21.9)
California-- Clinton:53.1% Sanders: 46.0% (result Clinton +7.1)
Montana--- Clinton:44.6% Sanders: 51.0% (result Sanders +6.4)
New Jersey Clinton:63.3% Sanders: 36.7% (result Clinton +26.6)
New Mexico Clinton:51.5% Sanders: 48.5% (result Clinton +3.0)
North Dakota Clinton:25.6% Sanders: 64.2% (result Sanders +38.6)
South Dakota Clinton:51.0% Sanders: 49.0% (result Clinton +2.0)
Wash--D.C. Clinton: 78.7% Sanders: 21.1% (result Clinton +57.6)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,825 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,825 posts)You would think some folks would pace themselves.
Maybe he went to find that horse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,825 posts)SMH.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(69,364 posts)Bernie's campaign so far is more like "to appear" than "to be."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(19,156 posts)don't think they will end up paying for it anyway.
I actually support making it easier for people to get better post-secondary education. But "free college" sounds so simplistic AND expensive that it's a non-starter with a lot of people who aren't the people in my subject line. And that's a lot of people.
"they just want free stuff that we have to pay for" is one of the easiest attacks by older, more conservative people on left-leaning millennials. It isn't helpful to campaign on that being true.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(319,069 posts)BS hires 3rd party trolls to run his campaign.
Just more Divisive crap from mr.. "be nice guy"
Bernie Sanders Politely Asks Supporters Not to Harass His Opponents
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=5478
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mentalslavery
(463 posts)thats for sure....
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(319,069 posts)This is about BS hiring 3rd party "attack dogs" to be more Divisive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to Cha (Reply #23)
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R B Garr
(17,984 posts)needs any prior Clinton voters (the mainstream bulk of the party) because hes just going to attack whomever he wants and everyone will just roll over for him. Is that how it works??
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(319,069 posts)rolls over for BS and his 3rd party "attack dog" hires.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,984 posts)as if they think Sanders will get your vote anyway. NO, it doesnt work that way. Hence Sanders LOSSES, more losses to come.
Its such an amazingly bad faith exercise we are enduring, and for what...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(319,069 posts)a good way to put it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mentalslavery
(463 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Response to mentalslavery (Reply #39)
ehrnst This message was self-deleted by its author.
Cha
(319,069 posts)Link to tweet
Sanders Promised Civility but Hired Twitter Attack Dog - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/sanders-promised-civility-hired-twitter-attack-dog/585259/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mentalslavery
(463 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(319,069 posts)and the rest of the internet? Everybody cares about the damn divisive no journalist integrity, 3rd party "attack dogs" hires except BS supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mentalslavery
(463 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(319,069 posts)his "message" so he hires 3rd party "attack dogs".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mentalslavery
(463 posts)hope it works out 4 u
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(319,069 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to Cha (Reply #44)
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Cha
(319,069 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mentalslavery
(463 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(319,069 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)HERE YOU GO:
Virgin Islands Clinton:87.1% Sanders: 12.9% (result Clinton +74.2)
Puerto Rico Clinton:59.4% Sanders: 37.5% (result Clinton +21.9)
California-- Clinton:53.1% Sanders: 46.0% (result Clinton +7.1)
Montana--- Clinton:44.6% Sanders: 51.0% (result Sanders +6.4)
New Jersey Clinton:63.3% Sanders: 36.7% (result Clinton +26.6)
New Mexico Clinton:51.5% Sanders: 48.5% (result Clinton +3.0)
North Dakota Clinton:25.6% Sanders: 64.2% (result Sanders +38.6)
South Dakota Clinton:51.0% Sanders: 49.0% (result Clinton +2.0)
Wash--D.C. Clinton: 78.7% Sanders: 21.1% (result Clinton +57.6)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)THIS PROVES THAT SANDERS WON!
2 of them!
Virgin Islands Clinton:87.1% Sanders: 12.9% (result Clinton +74.2)
Puerto Rico Clinton:59.4% Sanders: 37.5% (result Clinton +21.9)
California-- Clinton:53.1% Sanders: 46.0% (result Clinton +7.1)
Montana--- Clinton:44.6% Sanders: 51.0% (result Sanders +6.4)
New Jersey Clinton:63.3% Sanders: 36.7% (result Clinton +26.6)
New Mexico Clinton:51.5% Sanders: 48.5% (result Clinton +3.0)
North Dakota Clinton:25.6% Sanders: 64.2% (result Sanders +38.6)
South Dakota Clinton:51.0% Sanders: 49.0% (result Clinton +2.0)
Wash--D.C. Clinton: 78.7% Sanders: 21.1% (result Clinton +57.6)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hlthe2b
(113,961 posts)I am not commenting on the validity of any comments you are making, but surely any comments are more credible (and understood) when you actually convey them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)NOUN
The technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/whataboutism
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(319,069 posts)was in the dictionary!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(35,820 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)that's why he should have disclosed it from the start.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Senator Sanders has as bad a history with FEC as he has when it comes to releasing his tax returns, but he might not be allowed by law to start filing for extension after extension this early in the race, so he might have to actually be transparent when it comes to his campaign expenditures....this time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,825 posts)Seems you get that being as here you are talking lots about how super unconcerned you are.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NBachers
(19,438 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)and who has been friends with him for decades
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(84,263 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Sirota is exempt from those. Just like Greenwald.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)deciding which of them is worthy and which are not worthy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)This one seemingly based solely on the completely debunked hack job in the Atlantic. Pathetic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Talking Tom
(60 posts)Explain.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,984 posts)Did someone find the 20,000 deleted twitters? Did Sanders prove he wasnt on the payroll? Whats been debunked?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)senior level staffer? And an article from a Pulitzer Prize winning news organization, with the editor that broke the pedophile priest scandal, that holds Sirota to the same standards as other journalists is a "hit piece?"
That's some rationalization there...
{waits for arguments that WAPO is not really that reliable and owned by Bezos, who is clearly orders journalists to smear anyone who criticizes Amazon, so anything they say bad about a politician really means the OPPOSITE and that politician is therefore good for the country because Amazon itself is attacking them, etc.}
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...the point of calling anyone who said he was working with the campaign "a filthy liar"! Even while he WAS working with the campaign.
Yeah, what a sleazy hit piece.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bpj62
(1,067 posts)Bernie Sanders is taking a page out of Donald Trump's 2016 Campaign playbook. He is hiring people who are polarizing and caustic in thier actions and statements. He saw the success that Trump had with this strategy during the GOP primaries. Mark my words his campaign is going to be scorched earth against the other Democratic candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(17,984 posts)was trying to emulate for the same reasons. Tad Devine and Paul Manafort ran the opposition campaigns against Hillary, which were very similar, so......
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I would only hire him if I had very low (or nonexistent) ethical standards.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Not very savvy where the internets are concerned, is he?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)For technical reasons TweetDelete can only work within the latest 3,200 tweets on your account. Tweets older than this are not easily accessible via Twitter's interface and since we're not able to find them, we can't request that they be deleted. For the same reasons they're very difficult for anyone else to find either, so tweets over this limit are of lesser privacy concern at this time.
Once you've activated TweetDelete, provided you make less than 3,200 posts per the deletion timeframe you've selected, all future posts should be deleted as you'd expect.
Why does my account still have thousands of tweets on the counter after deleting everything with TweetDelete?
As mentioned above, we can only delete tweets within your most recent 3,200 tweets. As an example, if your account originally had 15,000 tweets and we do this, you'll still have 11,800 left. These old tweets don't show up on Twitter's site though (this is unrelated to using our service and is just how Twitter works).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Does this mean that Sirota is a FILTHY LIAR? (Or am I misunderstanding what the information means in that post?)
Tweeting is something that remains somewhat of a mystery to me.
Is this "tweetdelete" a third-party service that fills a void in functionality that's not offered by Twitter itself?
Are their other third-party "auto deleters"?
If so, do other third party services have the same constraints that "tweetdelete" mentions in their FAQ?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)How to Delete All Tweets
Navigate to http://www.twitwipe.com. TwitWipe is a free service that delete all of your tweets in a single swoop.[1]
TwitWipe can only manage your last 3,200 tweets. If you have more tweets than that, youll have to delete the remaining tweets manually.
Navigate to http://www.tweetdelete.net. TweetDelete is a free service that can delete all of the tweets in your Twitter account.[4]
Due to Twitter limitations, TweetDelete can only delete your last 3,200 tweets.[5]
Navigate to https://www.gocardigan.com. Cardigan is a free and reliable open-source service that will delete every tweet in your Twitter account.[9]
Cardigan, like all Twitter deletion apps, can only manage your last 3,200 tweets.[10] However, it's possible to grant Cardigan access to the remaining tweets.
Navigate to http://www.deletealltweets.com. You can use this free tool to delete all of the tweets in your account. Like all such tools, Delete All Tweets can only access the last 3,200 tweets in your account.
Only use this tool if your sure you want to delete all of your tweets. The process starts as soon as you authorize the app, and you wont be able to stop it.
This tool will automatically send a tweet from you that advertises its services. Continue with this method to learn how to delete that tweet.
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Also:
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/8/16991396/how-to-delete-twitter-history-tweetdelete
How to delete your Twitter history
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Fascinating.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)without his knowledge and participation
It is fascinating
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and I'd have to question the judgement of anyone who did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Especially for a politician who makes a habit of pointing out where others don't live up to his personal standard of ethics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)As in hes gonna release his tax returns soon?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)My thoughts as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ProfessorPlum
(11,461 posts)Such tsk tsking from the handmaidens of the elite.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Interesting that the Sanders campaign has not responded to requests for comments.
Why do you think that is? Certainly they would want to address this:
Or are you saying that Sirota isn't / hasn't been working as an operative for Senator Sanders for months? Or are you saying that Sirota didn't call people who said that he was working as an operative for Sanders FILTHY LIARS?

Marty Baron: "handmaiden of the elite." Tell that to the Archdiocese of Boston....
The Washington Post did due diligence before reporting. That's journalism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden


