A lot of you actually thought there was an ethical problem with the lecture circuit

[Recursion]

I'm just bringing this up as a reminder. A depressingly large number of us actually were gullible enough to believe that there is an ethical problem with speaking on the lecture circuit.

This isn't going to get better this year; it's going to be much, much worse. And the same forces that convinced you of something as manifestly stupid as "working the lecture circuit is unethical" are going to also push you to believe stupid things about our eventual nominee.

You need to do better than you did 4 years ago.

[LAS14]

1. K & R

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Yep, because someone gave ONE speech we can look forward to 30 years of TERRORISM

from our courts.

If you are gay, a woman, a Latino, a Muslim, POC and on and on and on and on this country will do everything it can to HARM you on a daily basis for the next 30-40 years.

I cant get angrier.

[CentralMass]

3. Like getting $250,000 dollars from a short lecture to Goldman Sachs then running for President ?

[TidalWave46]

4. Yes, I believe that is the stupidity being referenced. NT

[Recursion]

5. Literally. The exact thing (nt)

[Recursion]

6. Thank you for proving my point

This, right here.

[comradebillyboy]

7. Why on Earth would that be a problem? Hillary actually has

interesting and worthwhile things to say. She was out of office when she gave the speeches.

[jberryhill]

9. Yes, that piece of idiocy right there

[MrsCoffee]

11. Perfect example for the OP.

[NYMinute]

8. K&R nt

[BeyondGeography]

10. It was an obvious political problem for Clinton

Fortunately, Biden took notes:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-joe-biden-avoided-hillary-clintons-wall-street-problem-183759498.html

[TCJ70]

13. I'm pretty sure the problem was not being able to see what was being said.

That information never was disclosed, was it?

[betsuni]

14. Proud moment in propaganda history: convincing people that being paid for a speech corrupts you.

Russia hacking DNC private emails (including parts of Hillary's Goldman Sachs speech), Wikileaks releasing them and the news gleefully telling us about them -- no problem! Perfectly ethical.

It will be bad next year. Looking forward to being called stupid/Republican/troll/paid shill among other insults for supporting our Democratic nominee.

Will NEVER FORGIVE this: "I kind of think if you're going to be paid $225,000 for a speech, it must be a fantastic speech ... which you would want to share with the American people. $225,000 is an extraordinary speech. A Shakespearean speech." Celebrities paid the usual rate for speeches: fine. A Democrat running for office who has given speeches and been paid: OMG OMG CORRUPT *lights hair on fire* MUST BE NEOLIBERAL CONSPIRACY. Idiots.

[tonedevil]

15. Thanks for the marching orders chum.

We are so happy to have someone smart and mature to tell us what to do. I know that your style of scolding is going to be what gets out the vote. Keep this up for sure hectoring is a solid plan for victory.

[boomer_wv]

16. Even at it's worst....

Who here believes that having a Wall Street friendly democrat in office would be a worse fate than having Trump?

Let's be clear about this. If you didn't vote for Clinton, you voted for Trump.

[SidDithers]

17. Just remember...

making millions from expressing your thoughts in written form - Good
making millions from expressing your thoughts in verbal form - Bad

Sid