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Cary

(11,746 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:20 PM Nov 2019

As I read Rick Wilson's tweet on Bloomberg and Steyer...

and how their money will assure Orange Hitler's re-election I cringe.

I am no fan of big money in politics but what is more corrosive? Is money spent more corrosive than negativity?

The money is spent to do what? The money is primarily spent to divide and foment negativity. But WE, THE PEOPLE can defeat that money. It occurs to me that while well-meaning Rick Wilson's negativity is divisive and corrosive. If WE, THE PEOPLE want to defeat money then WE must put aside our petty bickering. Money depends on negativity. WE, THE PEOPLE depend on rejection of negativity and working together to achieve our common goals.

Money fueled negativity makes that more difficult but that is a poor excuse for failure and if we can coalesce then our victory takes on new significance. I don't want to complain about Steyer or Bloomberg. That is negative. I want to crush fascists.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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As I read Rick Wilson's tweet on Bloomberg and Steyer... (Original Post) Cary Nov 2019 OP
Bloomberg would rather lose to Trump than allow Warren or Sanders to be president...so I Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #1
Honestly, as long as he runs as a Dem its not a problem Cosmocat Nov 2019 #3
Steyer is a non factor BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #2
Histronics Cosmocat Nov 2019 #4
I tend to agree BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #6
The non-factor Steyer is doing OK in some of the early state polls. StevieM Nov 2019 #8
Cool story BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #11
Well then you can say that about most of the candidates in the race. StevieM Nov 2019 #13
Take away the fact he's a billionaire, Baked Potato Nov 2019 #5
Don't be distracted Cary Nov 2019 #7
It is completely unfair to compare Tom Steyer to Michael Bloomberg. StevieM Nov 2019 #9
I am certain that Steyer is not in the election for the money....Bloomberg....not so much...in fact Pachamama Nov 2019 #10
Good point! Land Shark Nov 2019 #12
 

Demsrule86

(68,455 posts)
1. Bloomberg would rather lose to Trump than allow Warren or Sanders to be president...so I
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:24 PM
Nov 2019

find his running for office disgusting....and I am not even a Warren or Sanders supporter...Bloomberg ran as an independent in New York...and now he wants to save us from our own voters ...screw that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
3. Honestly, as long as he runs as a Dem its not a problem
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:28 PM
Nov 2019

He won't come close to winning the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BannonsLiver

(16,288 posts)
2. Steyer is a non factor
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:27 PM
Nov 2019

0.0

And he’s been in the race a while. Bloomberg’s impact is an unknown at this point.

I’m surprised Rick would even bring Steyer into it TBH.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
4. Histronics
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:30 PM
Nov 2019

As long as Bloomberg does not go indy, it won't change things much.

I actually like him a bit, but he won't come close to the dem nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
8. The non-factor Steyer is doing OK in some of the early state polls.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 01:10 PM
Nov 2019

He is going to be in the next debate.

I think he deserves to be heard and considered, just like all the other candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,288 posts)
11. Cool story
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 01:51 PM
Nov 2019

But he’s a non factor. Reality beckons.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
13. Well then you can say that about most of the candidates in the race.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 02:34 PM
Nov 2019

You can say that Corey Booker, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard are also non-factors.

There is no more reason to say it about Steyer than about any of those other candidates.

Using your definition of reality, the only people who are not non-factors are Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
5. Take away the fact he's a billionaire,
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:30 PM
Nov 2019

Then, what’s left? What niche would he fill? I’d like to have a President who I am certain won’t be in it for the money. Will a billionaire make a decision that benefits the People, if that same decision drains his/her bank account?

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Cary

(11,746 posts)
7. Don't be distracted
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:32 PM
Nov 2019

I am a martial artist.

A key concept is to visualize your actions, with confidence in scoring.

This is no different.

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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
9. It is completely unfair to compare Tom Steyer to Michael Bloomberg.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 01:13 PM
Nov 2019

Bloomberg supported George W. Bush and Dick Cheney for re-election in 2004. Steyer did not.

Tom Steyer is long-time champion of liberal causes, and especially leading the fight against climate change. He should not simply be summed up as just another billionaire.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Pachamama

(16,884 posts)
10. I am certain that Steyer is not in the election for the money....Bloomberg....not so much...in fact
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 01:23 PM
Nov 2019

...I am pretty certain it is a huge factor.

I don't dislike Bloomberg personally. In fact, I admire and respect how he as a businessman grew his media empire and what he achieved. I do however disagree with him on many of his positions and while I think he will attract many moderate Republicans and Democrats and Independents alike, I do not think that he will be good for this country compared to other Democratic candidates.

If its going to be a battle of the Billionaires, then I would vote for Steyer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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