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Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:21 AM Nov 2019

Okay I will be the first to admit VP Bidens base is basically working class people

You are going to see the union people, the plumbers, electricians and fire fighters at Joes' rallies. Its more racially diverse, .. and culturally diverse.

That may be a negative for some, but I see it as a positive on all levels. Why, because the working class, and the lower middle, POC are our backbone.

We need everyone!.. and hopefully, (and I think he will) VP Joe draws more from the suburbs also. I wish I could see the numbers on that. The so called soccer Moms have been coming our way, as have the non-college women.

I got to see a video someone posted here yesterday, with our people cheering VP Biden as he went to register in NH. Usually our supporters are at work middle of the day, so you know they had to take vacation time to do this.

I am proud of our base, and think Joe can expand it upwards and out to younger voters too. Keep up the good work VP Joe. There are a lot of us who have full faith in you

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Okay I will be the first to admit VP Bidens base is basically working class people (Original Post) Peacetrain Nov 2019 OP
How the firefighters union looks to use their decades of Iowa Caucus experience to help Biden Gothmog Nov 2019 #1
On May 1st (a Monday) when I saw VP Joe in Iowa City... Peacetrain Nov 2019 #3
Maybe not so much vacation days but layoffs due to the Tariff debacle - these families have Hestia Nov 2019 #5
This jumped out in the article peggysue2 Nov 2019 #19
Salt of the earth. Cattledog Nov 2019 #2
Oh Thank you.. I have never seen his childhood home before Peacetrain Nov 2019 #4
Fun to see, thanks. Hortensis Nov 2019 #24
This is why Bloomberg entering the race will not effect Biden Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #6
Good way of looking at that! Peacetrain Nov 2019 #8
To the contrary. disndat Nov 2019 #15
Agree!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #20
I Was Pleasantly Surprised to See A Poll That Bloomberg is Taking No Votes from Biden But Rather Indykatie Nov 2019 #29
And those folks make up the bulk of the 8.4 million... SKKY Nov 2019 #7
Yep we need everyone! Peacetrain Nov 2019 #9
Excellent point. cwydro Nov 2019 #10
"Its more racially diverse, .. and culturally diverse." NurseJackie Nov 2019 #11
"... Bidens base is basically working class people ... That may be a negative for some ..." What? KPN Nov 2019 #12
Women/College educated women 60%/68% equals Base crazytown Nov 2019 #13
:) Nuts to that spin. Biden's support IS the hugely diverse Democratic base. Hortensis Nov 2019 #14
All very good points. As this campaign goes on voters see his easy going way of connecting Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #21
This makes me smile Gothmog Nov 2019 #16
Firehouse Chili... ohhhh you know that is good!! Peacetrain Nov 2019 #17
I really want some chili Gothmog Nov 2019 #18
You know a firehouse recipe's going to be good. Hortensis Nov 2019 #25
"Admit"? Why would you have to? What is the point of this? N/t TCJ70 Nov 2019 #22
Joe is having fun Gothmog Nov 2019 #23
The happy warrior...I like that...never been a fan of the generic angry candidate where they shout Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #28
I will be the first to admit that Biden's base is actually older people Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #26
I would be the first to admit that Warren must attract more AA voters of all ages in order to be our Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #27
Using your very onw logic Biden can't win younger voters Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #30
Don't have a sad about how well loved VP Biden is.. people love Sen Warren too Peacetrain Nov 2019 #32
AHHH bless your heart! ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #35
ROFL... and I bet you think I am just special too.. Peacetrain Nov 2019 #36
No I don't ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #39
Thank you for keeping this kicked! Peacetrain Nov 2019 #40
Fire fighters love @JoeBiden, @JoeBiden loves fire fighters, Cha Nov 2019 #31
Wouldn't you just love to be there!! Peacetrain Nov 2019 #33
Yes, in person.. getting a bowl of hot Firehouse Chili from Cha Nov 2019 #34
Makes efforts to turn him into an out-of-touch "liberal elite" nibbling canapes with billionaires betsuni Nov 2019 #37
Joe Biden tells NH fire fighters how much they mean to him: Gothmog Nov 2019 #38
Loving all the Biden tweets MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #41
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
1. How the firefighters union looks to use their decades of Iowa Caucus experience to help Biden
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:24 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
3. On May 1st (a Monday) when I saw VP Joe in Iowa City...
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:28 AM
Nov 2019

The Firefighters were there in full force. It was a thing of beauty.. as were a lot of working class.. the thing that surprised me, was the number of young families.. middle of the day. who were also there.. as I said in the op, people in the working class are taking vacation to come to a rally.. Its a big deal!!

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Hestia

(3,818 posts)
5. Maybe not so much vacation days but layoffs due to the Tariff debacle - these families have
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:52 AM
Nov 2019

been squeezed out and, not that they have no other place to go, but now they have the time to read the Democratic Party Platform and what Democrats really stand for.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
19. This jumped out in the article
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:09 PM
Nov 2019
“It’s really been more than just a distant political support,” Schaitberger said, about Biden’s relationship with the firefighters. “It has really been an intimate relationship he’s had with our profession and our members for decades.”

That statement underscores a lot of Biden's support on the ground with a variety of groups. It's personal, intimate because of relationships, networks and outreach forged over decades.

The firefighters are all in. Good one on them!

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Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
2. Salt of the earth.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:27 AM
Nov 2019

Biden's childhood home in Scranton PA

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Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
4. Oh Thank you.. I have never seen his childhood home before
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:31 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Fun to see, thanks.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:27 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
6. This is why Bloomberg entering the race will not effect Biden
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:52 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
8. Good way of looking at that!
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:04 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

disndat

(1,887 posts)
15. To the contrary.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:07 PM
Nov 2019

Bloomberg entry will bring some reality to E. Warren's impossible and alarming plans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
29. I Was Pleasantly Surprised to See A Poll That Bloomberg is Taking No Votes from Biden But Rather
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:53 PM
Nov 2019

Sanders, Warren and Mayor Pete. No wonder Biden said he welcomed Bloomberg joining the race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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SKKY

(11,803 posts)
7. And those folks make up the bulk of the 8.4 million...
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:01 PM
Nov 2019

...votes who switched from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. We need to get the majority of them back. Having a pro-union, pro-working class candidate is fundamental. 77,740 votes is what we need to make up folks. We’re closer than we think.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
9. Yep we need everyone!
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:05 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. Excellent point.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:07 PM
Nov 2019

Sadly, I see those same folks denigrated here regularly. No idea why.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. "Its more racially diverse, .. and culturally diverse."
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:19 PM
Nov 2019
Its more racially diverse, .. and culturally diverse.
Yes... that's a good sign. It is something of great value when it comes to being able to remain competitive in a national election. Any candidate who would tend to attract only (or disproportionately) affluent white voters to his (or her) rallies is a candidate who will discover that he (or she) won't have broad national appeal.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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KPN

(15,642 posts)
12. "... Bidens base is basically working class people ... That may be a negative for some ..." What?
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:26 PM
Nov 2019

Where do you get that from? Are you saying that's a negative for folks here at DU -- working class people is a negative? For supporters of other candidates?



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Undecided
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
13. Women/College educated women 60%/68% equals Base
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:27 PM
Nov 2019

White working class men 36% are not. GOTV of women is critical.

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Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. :) Nuts to that spin. Biden's support IS the hugely diverse Democratic base.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:44 PM
Nov 2019

The base by definition is our very large group of dependably loyal and committed Democrats, which ranges across all colors, religions, ethnicities, ages, and educational and income levels.

That is the huge, uniting strength VP Joe Biden's candidacy has brought to the 2020 elections, and it has endured through all the attacks, while all other candidates have failed to generate that unity.

Of course external enemies here and in other nations are ranged against VP Biden. Those include a strongly RW infiltrated MSM that started sabotaging him long before he entered the race. And here he is, solidly out ahead anyway.

Btw, those who genuinely dislike Biden here are a small minority and should not fool themselves they're part of a large opposition inside our party. They're not. Biden is either first or second with virtually all our party's voters because of who and what he is and because we intend to win.

86 days to kickoff!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
21. All very good points. As this campaign goes on voters see his easy going way of connecting
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:16 PM
Nov 2019

It’s a huge asset

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
16. This makes me smile
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:24 PM
Nov 2019

That is good looking chili


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
17. Firehouse Chili... ohhhh you know that is good!!
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:56 PM
Nov 2019

Wish I was there

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
18. I really want some chili
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:09 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. You know a firehouse recipe's going to be good.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:37 PM
Nov 2019

My favorite spaghetti and meatballs recipe is via a New Orleans firehouse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
22. "Admit"? Why would you have to? What is the point of this? N/t
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:23 PM
Nov 2019
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Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
28. The happy warrior...I like that...never been a fan of the generic angry candidate where they shout
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:50 PM
Nov 2019

at you.

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Bradshaw3

(7,510 posts)
26. I will be the first to admit that Biden's base is actually older people
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:46 PM
Nov 2019

It's not AA voters, it's older AA voters who prefer him. I imagine the same applies to working class voters. Age is the determining factor in support for Biden. In fact, not just among young people, but one recent poll had Biden at just 17 percent among those under 50:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/03/most-important-divide-among-democratic-voters/

I guess some are tyring to counter the perception of Biden as a man of the Wlall Street types (a perception he is helping to fuel with his big money donors) but the fact is if you are going to talk about his base, it's those over 50.

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Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
27. I would be the first to admit that Warren must attract more AA voters of all ages in order to be our
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:48 PM
Nov 2019

nominee...we are a diverse party...Also, Biden is still the front runner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Bradshaw3

(7,510 posts)
30. Using your very onw logic Biden can't win younger voters
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 03:03 PM
Nov 2019

That is the argument expressed over and over again on this board when talking about AA voters, even though Warren won a higher percentage of AA voters in her state than HRC did. You certainly would never question HRC's ability do win AA voters. Yet that is said about Warren. Wha'ts good for the goose ... means Biden can't win younger voters. At least accoring to Biden supporters logic.

But you are delfecting, a common tactic when the facts can't be debated.

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Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
32. Don't have a sad about how well loved VP Biden is.. people love Sen Warren too
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 05:43 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
35. AHHH bless your heart!
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 05:59 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
36. ROFL... and I bet you think I am just special too..
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:02 PM
Nov 2019
..
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
39. No I don't
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 09:46 PM
Nov 2019

Not at all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
40. Thank you for keeping this kicked!
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 10:29 PM
Nov 2019

I came in to kick it up for the people who post in the evening and you beat me to it.. appreciate that.. I don't always get a chance to post in the evening...

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Cha

(297,137 posts)
31. Fire fighters love @JoeBiden, @JoeBiden loves fire fighters,
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 05:13 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
33. Wouldn't you just love to be there!!
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 05:45 PM
Nov 2019

Especially with a big bowl of that chili

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Cha

(297,137 posts)
34. Yes, in person.. getting a bowl of hot Firehouse Chili from
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 05:56 PM
Nov 2019

Joe Biden on a cold day in November!

Mahalo for your thread, Peacetrain!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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betsuni

(25,462 posts)
37. Makes efforts to turn him into an out-of-touch "liberal elite" nibbling canapes with billionaires
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:23 PM
Nov 2019

at swanky fundraisers look as stupid as they are. Won't work. Chili with firefighters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
38. Joe Biden tells NH fire fighters how much they mean to him:
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:23 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MustLoveBeagles

(11,589 posts)
41. Loving all the Biden tweets
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 10:43 PM
Nov 2019

Thanks for posting.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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