Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders Draw Largest Iowa Crowd of Democratic Primary So Far with Call for

[Uncle Joe]

'Solidarity' Over Unity

(snip)

As they did last month at a rally in Queens, where Ocasio-Cortez officially endorsed the Vermont Independent senator, the two progressives centered the event on a call for solidarity with people of diverse races, class backgrounds, and life experiences.

One key to "expanding the electorate," Ocasio-Cortez suggested, is to inspire voters to vote to improve the lives of people they may never meet in person.

"Solidarity means, I fight for you and you fight for me," the freshman congresswoman told the crowd before introducing Sanders.

"Iowa, you're the first in the nation, baby," she added. "You need to set the tone. I need to go back home to the Bronx and tell my community in the Bronx, 'We need to fight for Iowa.'"

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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/09/ocasio-cortez-and-sanders-draw-largest-iowa-crowd-democratic-primary-so-far-call

[George II]

1. Someone should remind her that 3/4 of "her community" is across the East River in QUEENS.

[murielm99]

4. Isn't Congress is session?

Why isn't she there?

[NurseJackie]

6. Good question.

[George II]

14. My Congressman is meeting with constituents today.

[oldsoftie]

16. No cameras waiting for her in Congress.

[KPN]

29. It's Saturday.

[NurseJackie]

5. Why did someone want to make it look like she's his running mate?

Here's a photo of the "running-mate" style banner... and the crowd.

[oldsoftie]

17. So is this photoshopped? I saw your post below.

If so, I HATE when people do this stuff

[NurseJackie]

25. No it's not photoshopped. I found it at the link provided in the OP.

As far as I can tell it's genuine. I suppose anything is possible, however.

[George II]

27. They're from two different angles. Largest crowd ever........in that gymnasium.

[NurseJackie]

28. "Largest crowd ever........in that gymnasium."

Largest crowd ever........in that gymnasium.

[emmaverybo]

33. Beautiful.

[KPN]

30. Where did you see the word "ever"?

[NurseJackie]

2. A photo of the crowd and venue...

[George II]

20. At least in Iowa he can get away with a mostly white crowd, unlike in Queensbridge Park in Queens.

[NurseJackie]

26. IKR?!!

[OnDoutside]

3. With this and all Trump's farm bailouts, Iowa is awash with socialism !

[Thekaspervote]

8. Dotard's farm bailouts have done little to save the small family farms in IA

[OnDoutside]

9. Yes because the small farmers are seeing little of it.

[Thekaspervote]

7. Don't let crowd size mislead says writer from 538..article makes some good points

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dont-let-crowd-sizes-mislead-you/

[George II]

10. MSNBC is reporting on this right now - they're saying the rally drew "hundreds of people".

[Uncle Joe]

12. Yes but it seems to me this article argues against itself in regards to G.E. popular vote success.

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s campaign has said she has drawn crowds of up to 15,000. Meanwhile, former Vice President Joe Biden has not exactly been packing them in, even as he continues to lead by a healthy margin in most polls of the Democratic presidential primary. So could Warren’s big crowds be picking up on something that the polls are missing?

The short answer is: No. While the ability to generate big crowds is certainly nice — it may signal enthusiasm among highly engaged voters or produce favorable media coverage — you should ignore any candidate, surrogate or media outlet that tells you that large crowd sizes mean that the polls are underestimating a candidate’s support. It’s just spin; polls are much more accurate at forecasting elections than crowd-size estimates, which don’t tell us all that much.

For every example like 2008, when then-Sen. Barack Obama’s huge crowds seemed to reflect real enthusiasm for his campaign, there is one like 2012, when former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney won his primary despite drawing noticeably small crowds on the campaign trail. Or take what happened in 2016. Despite a lot of hay being made about crowd sizes during the 2016 campaign, that cycle also was an argument against crowd sizes being predictive. Although now-President Trump did often draw large crowds at his primary rallies, Hillary Clinton reportedly beat him out for largest crowd of the 2016 campaign, 40,000 to 30,000. And at roughly this point in the Democratic primary in 2016, Sen. Bernie Sanders was outdrawing Clinton!

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dont-let-crowd-sizes-mislead-you/

[Baclava]

21. " Polls are scientific, polls are more accurate", they still believe their own gibberish after 2016?

Polls can be just as wrong and biased as anything, throw them all out the window when its still a year before an election

[emmaverybo]

34. The polls were wrong in 2016 because results were fiddled with.

[jalan48]

11. Great to see Democrats getting excited about a candidate..

[Uncle Joe]

15. I caught the livestream midway and honestly just saw most of Bernie's speech and I

believe it was of his most profound, passionate speeches.

I had this powerful inner feeling that Bernie's speech was historical already in real time as I was viewing it!

[oldsoftie]

18. I certainly believe he's passionate. Just misguided about what can be passed

[Uncle Joe]

19. Bernie brings that issue up in his speech.

[jalan48]

23. Thanks for the post. Bernie definitely generates enthusiasm among regular folks, not the banks

and corporations so much.

[Mr.Bill]

13. Pep rallys at my high school

were larger than that.

[Nanjeanne]

22. I watched and it was great but I'm really looking forward to today's with Naomi Klein endorsing

someone for her first time ever - standing with AOC and Bernie Sanders. She's been a hero of mine since Shock Doctrine.

[Uncle Joe]

24. Nanjeanne, I believe Naomi absolutely nailed it.

I watched and it was great but I'm really looking forward to today's with Naomi Klein endorsing

someone for her first time ever - standing with AOC and Bernie Sanders. She's been a hero of mine since Shock Doctrine.

[KPN]

31. Good stuff. Thanks for posting.

[Uncle Joe]

32. Thank you KPN.

[ritapria]

35. Bernie and AOC drew 2000 Today at Environmnt Forum Organizd by Campaign in Des Moines

Organization and Grass Roots Enthusiasm are key to winning Caucuses ……...It takes up to 3 hours on a cold winter Night in February to participate …. The pundits may be underestimating Bernie again ….We'll see