*NEW* Morning Consult: Biden 31%, Sanders 20%, Warren 18%, Buttigieg 8%, Harris 6%, Bloomberg 4%

[Skya Rhen]

https://morningconsult.com/2019/11/10/bloomberg-is-top-choice-for-4-percent-of-democratic-primary-voters/


Bloomberg’s initial entrance would do little to disrupt the current state of play, according to the national survey of 2,225 registered voters who indicated they may vote in the Democratic primary or caucus in their state, which had a margin of error of 2 percentage points. At 31 percent, former Vice President Joe Biden held his spot as the race’s front-runner, while Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), with 20 percent and 18 percent, respectively, continue to vie for second.

Bloomberg’s net favorability — the share of voters who approve of him minus those who disapprove — is worst among the party’s youngest voters (ages 18-29) and those who identify as independents, while it’s best among the oldest Democratic primary voters (ages 65 and older) and those who say they’re conservative, who make up a small share of the overall Democratic party.

[ritapria]

1. WOW 4% , Save your Money Mike

[UncleNoel]

12. Yipee!

[DownriverDem]

2. My concern

is that the Dems will end up with a candidate that can't win the General Election.

[crazytown]

3. Is that Bloomberg as well?

[ritapria]

13. More from Morning Consult Poll

Warren and Bloomberg +6% over Trump ….. Bernie + 5% over Trump.....Biden +4% over Trump

[crazytown]

16. That's a turn up for the books

"The polls are what the polls are"

[crazytown]

4. Biden 31% Sanders+Warren 38%

Even Morning Consult indicates Biden does not have the votes to win a majority of delegates.

[Xandric77]

10. Neither does Warren

Or Delaney, or anyone.

[crazytown]

11. "Or Delaney"

[UncleNoel]

15. So can Biden add all the lowest tier moderates to his number as well?

[crazytown]

17. Only if they drop out

At <15% they won't win many delegates.

[Demsrule86]

26. And it is very likely their votes will go to Biden as a moderate and not to Sanders and/ or Warren.

[Demsrule86]

25. Biden has more support than either Warren or Sanders...

I guess you think by presenting them as a team, it helps show...? I am not sure what exactly. But honestly it does just the opposite. We don't have 'teams' in our nominating process as you surely know.

[boomer_wv]

32. That's only true

if you believe that voters won't migrate to the leader as the primary advances. We was this in 2016 with Trump, as he picked up delegates his support grew in later states based on the voters rallying around the most likely nominee.

[Demsrule86]

42. You do realize that Biden is at 31 and Sanders and Warren combined at 38...just a few more points

He will be ahead of their doubled numbers...

[4139]

5. Actually 4% is pretty good at this point, if he keeps exploring it he'll likely pass Harris

In the next two weeks he before he announces

[crazytown]

6. '25% of Democratic primary voters express unfavorable views of Bloomberg

higher than any of the 15 candidates currently in the race.'

de Blasio would have given him a run for the boo birds

[evertonfc]

7. My sense

after talking to lots of activists and Democrats this weekend is that Warren is slipping and just simply thought to unelectable in a GE. Bernie may end up in that lane in a few weeks. I live in Nashville and TN will go.to Biden easily but talked to people from Florida and GA that are on the ground, as well.

[calguy]

8. That's my sense too

Deep in my heart I feel Biden is the only one of our candidates who can win a general election.

[crazytown]

18. This is an unusual election

The nominee matters less than is normally the case. Dems and Independents will be voting more against trump and the GOP.

[Demsrule86]

24. That is completely untrue. And the idea that Trump will be easily beaten in the EC is wrong...

It is more important this year that we have a nominee who can beat Trump in the EC in the rust belt states...you hate Trump and I hate Trump,I would vote for any nominee...but you make a mistake if you think others in this center left country don't like him or like us less. Many will vote their party too- like him or not.I wish our voters would do this. Vote blue no matter who. One more Scotus pick and progressives might as well go home for the next several decades, the courts will be completely controlled by the right.

Trump has a good chance to win this thing and who the nominee is will determine whether we win or we lose. We came into this race thinking Trump must go but now it has descended into...I want this nominee or that one...even when multiple polls show their chosen candidate may not be the best one in terms of beating Trump. This is madness when we have evil squatting in the White House and our Republic is at risk.

I don't give two fucks about policy right now, where the candidates get their money to beat the crap out of Trump or really anything that usually I would consider in choosing whom I will support. I support Biden partly because I believe he is the only candidate that will beat Trump in the rust belt and multiple polls reflect this. I would vote blue no matter what of course but our chances are limited with other candidates.

We must win in the EC. If we voted directly, Trump would be beaten by any of our fine candidates, but we don't. We must win the EC and that will be accomplished in MI, WI and PA or not and the numbers are too close for my liking.

I would also add, I have never supported any nominee I agree with completely. I adored Obama but I never agreed with him on trade. He was however, my first choice. There are no perfect candidates and we need to understand this. Any Democrat is better than any Republican in any election period. I am always enthusiastic about winning and beating the crap out of any Republican, but this year especially Trump.

[peggysue2]

34. x1000!

The electoral college is where the election will be won or lost. We should have all learned that lesson after 2016 where Hillary racked up nearly 3 million extra votes but lost due to approx 80,000 votes spread across MI, WI, and PA. If we don't win the Rust Belt states, we'll be staring at the same disaster compounded by the damage Trump and his cronies have already done.

This isn't rocket science. Those Rust Belt states going Blue is the difference between success and failure. Policy and programs are secondary to winning. All our candidates offer a liberal vision for America with varying ways of getting there. But only the candidate who can pick up what we lost last time out will beat Trump. We have to dismiss the fairytale that anyone or anything (ham sandwich, for instance) can beat this sucker. It's simply not true and sings us a lullaby that 2020 is wrap for Democrats and that all candidates are up to the task.

Every poll indicates Joe Biden can take Trump to the woodshed and beat the living daylights out of him.

That is why I support him. In addition, he's the most qualified candidate on the roster.

Winning in 2020 is EVERYTHING.

[Demsrule86]

35. Thanks peggy given the recent polls, I believe others are coming to the same conclusion.

[ritapria]

9. You are right

Biden has a big advantage in the South ...Lots of Moderate Dems and and African- Americans over the age of 50 support him.... His big problem is Iowa and NH ……….If Biden can put in a decent performance in those 2 states , he will be the nominee …..Bloomberg is betting that Biden will stumble early and he, Bloomberg, will inherit the moderate lane on Super Tuesday ...

[Demsrule86]

22. First of all the polls do show Biden will be fine in Iowa...but it is a caucus state thus I put no

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weight on Iowa...they don't even reflect their state vote and are not nor should be in a position to determine our nominee...Clinton won the presidency losing both New Hampshire and Iowa. I think this is the last time anyone cares about Iowa and that is a good thing as they don't reflect our diversity and putting so much weight on their results is a slap in the face to our AA constituency. They will have little effect on the race IMHO...as for New Hampshire...if Bernie and or Warren don't win this state, it could hurt them because they are from the area but it won't hurt Biden.

[Peacetrain]

14. Wow Mike Bloomberg...not a good sign 4%

you might want to rethink this..

[Gothmog]

19. From Nate Silver

Link to tweet

?s=20

[Demsrule86]

21. It is what some hoped for so they convince themselves that now it is over for Joe...began before

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he even announced with Flores and has continued. The media and some pollsters are in the tank for Warren...and yet she is still not the front runner. The media advised Joe to not even get in the race and breathlessly announced 'sources' told them that Biden wasn't going to...when they were proven wrong, it has been a nonstop attempt on their part to destroy him.

[Skya Rhen]

45. This is why I find it delusional when people say, "They are trying to push Biden down our throat".

[Demsrule86]

46. I agree...it seems there is another candidate that the media, some pollsters and supporters are

trying to shove down our throats.

[Demsrule86]

20. Joe is the best and is in the lead as he has been all along. K&R It is sheer vanity for the

billionaires running for president.

[FloridaBlues]

23. 4% and he hasn't entered. That's more than some candidates have now.

I like 31% for Biden. Holding steady!!

[Demsrule86]

27. I can't believe that he will pull ahead of Harris. I do not like Bloomberg for president...he

supported stop and frisk and will make a deal with the GOP to ruin Social security and Medicare IMHO. He ran as an independent in New York too.

[onetexan]

41. Joe is my preference but if Bloomberg wins the nomination i'd vote for him in a heartbeat

Yes i know all the negatives & positives he achieved/failed to do while he was mayor, but he had alot more of the positives & bring mayor of NY is like being governor of a state. Most importantly, he tackled the guns issue in NY. I will vote for that any day.

[comradebillyboy]

28. I am sorry to see Warren falling behind Sanders in recent polling.

Her MfA position and being widely regarded as a Sanders clone has hurt her pretty badly in my opinion. I like Warren a lot and I'd like to see her put some distance between herself and Bernie. They aren't a team they are rivals and Warren needs to show why she is the better progressive candidate.

[Demsrule86]

29. From what I have read on social media...there is beginning to be a concern with Warren that she

won't win a general....and that MFA will kill us in a general.

[Fiendish Thingy]

30. I would think folks would have learned from 2016 not to trust social media nt

[Demsrule86]

31. Sure...you don't believe everything your read, but when you see long term participants

moving in a certain direction, you can see pretty clearly what is happening.

[Fiendish Thingy]

33. Can You?

What if those long term participants have been duped by Russian bots and RWNJ memes?

[Demsrule86]

38. That is a bit paranoid...you think the pollsters are duped also?

[Fiendish Thingy]

39. You specifically mentioned changing attitudes on social media, not polls

Have you already forgotten how Russia and Cambridge Analytica successfully micro targeted and manipulated 77,000 voters in the Rust Belt in 2016?

Because of the evidence from recent history, I take your anecdote about "concern with Warren" on social media with a huge grain of salt...there was lots of "concern about Hillary" on social media in 2016...

[Demsrule86]

40. Some of these folks have followed me for years and are basing their opinions on recently

viewed polls. Time will tell.

[egbertowillies]

36. MFA will only kill us in the general if we acquiesce to fear and

do what we do too often. Republicans do what they want even if the people don't want it because they exude strength. If we stop the timidity and lean into our true beliefs and sell it, the people will follow because they will see there is reason to hope for better.

The problem is that when some on our side start using Republican talking points to go against policies that saves lives or make people's lives better because "funders" don't like it, we are fighting a multifront war. That only happens if we don't exact a price on those not going against the real polled will of Americans.

Let's get busy and lean in with passion and conviction.

I wrote this article a while back and I think the Democratic Leadership would do well to read it. Donald Trump went to visit "Black People" in Georgia this week and was summarily mocked by our Liberal Elite. Not so fast. A party seeking status quo out of "fear" presents the same danger to the aggrieved as the one purported to aggrieve. And when the aggrieved decides to be transactional all are up for grabs. This applies to women, and to many other demographics.

https://faileddemocrats.com/2017/12/democrats-talk-republicans-walk/

[Demsrule86]

37. No, let's use our heads and run on the ACA with a public option which is popular and something we

can get through congress...the M4A is not something that we can get through congress...and win the 2020 presidential election and the Senate as well...so we can move he ball down the field...this is not a tilting at windmills kind of election. The consequences are so severe should we lose, we simply must act in a way that gives us our best chance.

[Scurrilous]

43. ...

[Tarheel_Dem]

44. Yet another poll showing Warren & BS trading places. Despite the best efforts of his opponents...

Joe still seems to be going strong nationally.