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Related: About this forumStrategists say Warren 'Medicare for All' plan could appeal to centrists
OK, so this is The Hill, which will make some immediately jump on the messenger. But it is actually quite interesting.
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/469707-strategists-say-warren-medicare-for-all-plan-could-appeal-to-centrists
Snippets:
The fact that she has devised a plan that would benefit middle class Americans without taxing [them] is certainly reassuring to a lot of people, said Brad Bannon, a Democratic strategist who isnt working for any of the presidential campaigns.
What Warrens plan does is giving voters bold change without raising middle class taxes, Bannon added.
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Some policy experts say that Warrens proposed employer contribution is a tax that would ultimately be paid by workers. But others argue that burdens on the middle class wouldnt go up because employers would be shifting from making payments to private insurers to payments to the federal government.
Supporters of Warrens plan also note that the plan makes clear that Warren would eliminate premiums, deductibles and copays, which should be a relief for voters with questions about Medicare for All.
Adam Green co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC), which has endorsed Warren said that Warrens Medicare for All financing plan is functionally like an $11 trillion tax cut for middle class families, because it eliminates out-of-pocket health costs for workers and targets tax increases at the wealthy and corporations. ...
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Too many seem to forget about all those out-of-pocket health costs that are part of the current system, along with all of its other drawbacks.
But more and more are noticing and are looking more favorably at her plan.
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More snippets:
However, a recent poll released by the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) and the Cook Political Report found that most Democratic voters in four key battleground states think Medicare for All is a good idea, but that most swing voters in those states view it as a bad idea.
Both the Progressive Change Institute and the KFF surveys were conducted before Warren released her funding plan. ...
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Much more at the link. I look forward to seeing these poll results.
I also look forward to seeing poll results that take Warren's funding plan into consideration once voters understand how it works.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)I see the job of "selling" legislation to be primarily that of constituents- if Warren makes the case to The People, then it is our job to pressure our reps to pass the bill.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)and if you're a candidate you have to persuade people that your proposals are realistic if you want to get elected. To be realistic they have to have a fighting chance of making it through Congress in some recognizable form. I want to know from the candidates whether and how they will accomplish this. Also, the ACA as passed was significantly altered from its original form. That always happens.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)He didn't run on the ACA in his first campaign?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)His proposal while he was a candidate included a public option, which would have made the ACA much different if it had been included in the final bill, but it was not. The ACA was finally passed in 2010 but it was not the same in a number of respects as Obama's original idea.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)and it should just be scrapped. It's UNREAL. We were finally getting through to a good portion of the American people about the benefits of the ACA and now this!!!! Democrats need to vote with THEIR HEADS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)but scrapping the ACA right now and starting over with a completely different and potentially more complicated system isn't realistic. It took several years even for the ACA's on-line enrollment system to run properly, which makes me think a lot of people might be reluctant to go through that kind of hassle again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Dem's are alone in that voting booth, they will make the PRACTICAL choice so we can lock this thing down and win it.
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Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)Did Obama specifically address how he would "sell" his healthcare plan to Congress?
If not, then why The double standard for Warren?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)because it's a fair question to ask of any candidate who proposes a significant, costly change in any major government program. Anything that involves government spending (and almost everything does) has to be passed by Congress, which means that a lot of pie in the sky quickly loses altitude once it gets to that stage. I want the candidates to be honest about what they think the chances are that their programs can become law.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,645 posts)Medicare For All --- in large part due to Sander's and Warren's unabashed straight-talk and promotion of what really is not a radical proposal.
We already owe a debt of gratitude to these great leaders in my view.
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evertonfc
(1,713 posts)these strategist are not working for us in the General
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UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)Employers who employ more than 50 people are not going to take that $ 9500 hit per employee .. They are going to reduce employee compensation to some degree .An indirect tax is a tax nonetheless A payroll tax is the preferred and efficient way to finance MFA . .Th bigger point is that projected tax increases are less than the projected reduction in healthcare expenses .That simple concept can't be sold to the American people ? .. If the people can't figure that out , the Country is Lost..... ..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)one of the reasons for Warren decline in recent polls...it hurts her electability...the most important thing for many if not most.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided