"It's amazing when you actually have time to communicate with voters how effective Joe Biden is."

[highplainsdem]

This tweet from Biden's campaign manager, Greg Schultz, nails the difference between the town hall format and the Democratic debates:

Link to tweet

It's amazing when you actually have time to communicate with voters how effective @JoeBiden is - the 'debate' format Democrats have been using just benefits Trump.

[elleng]

1. Really shouldn't be a surprise.

[JoeOtterbein]

4. Coming from Joe's manager?

[elleng]

6. from any breathing person.

media likes 'debates' which are never remotely like debates; people like people to people.

[JoeOtterbein]

8. Sorry, but I'm still breathing!

Sounds like Joe is expecting Trump to be easy. It's just way too early in the Primaries for any candidate to think the GOP will just roll over for any of them.

[elleng]

12. STILL the statement clearly true,

and V.P. Biden is surely aware of the games repugs play and don't roll over.

[JoeOtterbein]

15. So you think the GOP, let alone Trump, will not take all the time they can & want? On TV? Internet?

Anywhere?

We need to be able to explain clear, and as fast as lightning against all of the millions of them. ASAP!

[elleng]

17. I've said no such thing, and I've said we badly need a/or several loud & clear spokespeople;

as we don't yet have a candidate, we're here discussing how we get there.

[emmaverybo]

25. Hey, you have your preferred machine-gun talking style, but that's because your preferred candidate

excels at it. But a rapid fire speech delivery is not the usual means by which messages are communicated among world leaders, impressive as it is on tv or the stump—to some,

The president must deliberate, consult with advisors, cabinet, military officials. Listening is required. Recognizing complex geo-political realities globally also useful, and experience on world stage. Having the trust and respect of our allies a definite bonus. Debate gotchas, canned healthcare plan
speeches, animated lectures and revolutionary fervor, not really particularity presidential.

[Thekaspervote]

32. This!!

[pangaia]

37. I've been watching this discussion and everybody has their own

argument about why their guy(woman) is best...

It's exhausting---



I have NO IDEA who would be the best pres.. they almost all are very qualified, intelligent...

[emmaverybo]

45. Are they equally qualified? Equally job-specific qualified? None but Biden has demonstrated

qualifications in national governance or international,affairs. None have foreign policy and relations
experience, in the field. None demonstrate Joe’s level of knowledge about complex geo-political
factors influencing trouble spots—the Mideast, India and Pakistan—the policy history underpinning current issues and those issues themselves in Central America which contribute to the humanitarian crisis at our southern border; none have been involved in negotiations with major players in Iraq, China, Europe, Russia or served as VP during our negotiations with Iran. Which president would have the greatest likelihood to bring Iran and the international community back to the table again or restore our alliances?

Supporters of other candidates assume qualifications not yet demonstrated, dismiss the importance of stature, respect, experience on the world stage, in fact, ignore FP altogether. They look only at political positioning and domestic policy serving that; but the leader of a superpower which in turn leads in the world, should, preferably, given such perilous times and the disarray Trump will leave behind, have a great deal more than domestic economic policy ideas to bring to the table.

Are other candidates as qualified to build up the crumbling executive office infrastructure, flesh out our skeletal state department, help restore functionality and mission to a variety of federal departments that no longer work for their respective missions?

It is wishful thinking to say all candidates are equally qualified, or prepared, or experienced. And, most important, those on the progressive side have not shown that they can unify our party, much less the public at large, around their policy ideas, much less around a set of common American ideals. Just the opposite. They have disparaged the idea of unity. They have made their goal to shift the party and the country to “the left,” a goal they seem to put above the needs or the will of the majority.

Biden is not only far and away the most job-specific qualified candidate, he is the one who launched his campaign on a unity message, avowed unity as a major goal. Others have picked it up since, but no one has as broad an appeal as Joe across regions, demographies, voting constituencies, and political identities.

Finally, as shown, once again in last night’s town hall, no other candidate conveys in his or her communication style and presence such empathy. Their policies may well be based on it. They have had their moments, when making a personal identification with an issue, or appealing to compassion in making a moral stance—yet consistently, Biden connects with audiences primarily through empathy and they, in turn, come away with an impression of Joe as, above all, decent, kind, compassionate, one who has heard them.

As a country assaulted daily by cruel, selfish, bigoted policies, words, and deeds we might do well to add compassionate character and presence to the list of qualifications we consider desirable, perhaps required, in our next president.

In that case, and along with Biden’s other manifest, proven qualifications, supporting his candidacy is a no brainer because none, as bright, ambitious, full of bold ideas and “exciting” as they are to followers, and a drama-demanding media, come up to Biden’s waist on all-around and global qualifications.

[Thekaspervote]

33. How's that working for your preferred candidate?

[LanternWaste]

39. I dig how you move the goalposts so quickly and without shame

And then argue against points no one is actually making.

[Thekaspervote]

35. And from Charles Pierce who has been very critical of Biden

@charlespierce
Biden is doing very well.. Very very Bidenesque

[applegrove]

2. Biden was so adept during the debate with Paul Ryan in 2012. Maybe it is

just debating 10 other people that doesn't work so well for him.

[Demsrule86]

5. I don't think any of them do well with so many candidates...Biden is attacked because the media

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wants to be proven right....or whatever. Updated...sorry have attention deficit...acts up when I get tired.

[applegrove]

14. Sorry. I don't understand the last thing. Were you saying "wants"?

[Demsrule86]

18. Sorry I have attention deficit ...acts up when I get tired... I updated. I think the media was

a bit pissed when early on, their predictions of Biden's demise even before he got in were proven wrong. I also think a fair number are Warren supporters and some like Mayor Pete. Thanks for pointing it out...appreciate it.

[applegrove]

20. I do that all the time. Only with me it is dyslexia and treating one word

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as a substitude for another as if they were without meaning but metaphors by shape of the word or sound. I don't have add. I get tired sometimes and don't focus. I am in fact being lazy. I'm probably lazy due to medication. But i can focus for hours and days on end at one thing if need be.

[Demsrule86]

40. I do that too.

[Thekaspervote]

34. Biden is running against dotard..everyone else is running against Joe

[emmaverybo]

36. Word!

[Demsrule86]

3. Watching the town hall ...Biden is doing very well ...riveting-very proud to support his good man.

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defending his health plan now...CNN said he did very well.

[Cha]

7. Excellent statement from Greg Schultz!

Yeah, Biden was connecting with Voters.. not dealing with incoming!

Thanks, hpd!

[Demsrule86]

19. I watched it all ...wasn't planning to but he was so good...past my bedtime!

[Cha]

21. Good on you, Dems!

I missed it 'cause my daughter called and we needed to talk.. but it's great reading all the reviews!

[Demsrule86]

22. I thought Biden made a good point about his clash with Warren...some seem to say that if

you don't agree with them on M4A and other issues than you aren't a real Democrat or as he said 'bad'... and it is kind of condescending to think you know best for everyone...if people don't want MFA than it can't happen. We elect folks to represent our preferred policies not to decide what is best for us against our wishes. M4A won't happen without pubic support. And right now, there is not enough support. But the ACA is popular and can be improved right away if we get the Senate...we might be able to force the GOP to support this too because it is popular...just my two cents.

[Cha]

27. Thanks for that, Dems!

Well, said.. was Biden saying the same kind of thing?

[Demsrule86]

41. Yes he said he wasn't going after Warren but the idea that some think

they know best for others and it is condescending that everyone who disagrees with them are bad or Republican...running in the wrong party comment shows this clearly.

[Cha]

46. Mahalo.. 'cause I don't like

that.. mfa or the highway attitude.. really sucks.

[emmaverybo]

29. Agree! "We elect folks to represent our preferred policies not to decide what is best for us to

against our wishes.” Indeed! Public, popular support is important. And as I say, don’t act like you have a mandate until you do.

[Demsrule86]

42. That is it exactly. No ground work ie winning hearts and minds was done before

Some tried to move this party left left in a center left country...you have to do the heavy lifting before you run not during or after.

[JoeOtterbein]

9. Is there a link to a transcript of Joe tonight on CNN, yet?

[highplainsdem]

10. Not yet. Did you see my OP with links to CNN tweets with about half an hour of video clips?

[JoeOtterbein]

11. Yes, but I still want to be sure about something I thought I heard Joe say. Thanks again!

[highplainsdem]

13. Here's the page for CNN's 11/11 transcripts, which they're still updating. Maybe the town hall

transcript will show up there soon:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2019.11.11.html

[JoeOtterbein]

16. Thanks again!

[OilemFirchen]

23. Uh huh.

JoeOtterbein (2,857 posts)
59. I can't watch. Any really hard questions and answers you heard yet?

Twitter not saying yet.

My bold.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=343919

[JoeOtterbein]

26. Sorry! I only caught a few minutes. Is that ok with you? Or just a personal smear?

[OilemFirchen]

28. Not to worry.

You just be you.

[Cha]

31. ooops.

[Gothmog]

24. I got to meet Joe in person at a fundraiser after the Houston Debate

This is the Joe that I saw at that fundraiser

[Cha]

30. Very Cool!

[Demsrule86]

43. I saw him too. This is Joe. He is one of tne best campaigners ever.

[Gothmog]

44. Joe is very cool

I was a national delegate to Philadelphia and had some floor speech signs from his speech. Joe signed three signs for me and took a couple of great selfies. Joe took my phone from me and did the selfies better than I could do

I really like Joe

[Renew Deal]

38. This sounds like excuses

[Cha]

47. Not to me it doesn't. Biden is excellent

at connecting with voters.