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Xandric77

(54 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 02:58 PM Nov 2019

What candidates who cry "coup" in Bolivia won't tell you

We are being told that a president that shouldn't have been president even before the latest electrons was victim of a "coup". Here are some facts that you won't hear from people defending Bernie Sanders' condemnation of a "coup" in Bolivia:


First, Morales, who took office in 2006, was only allowed under the constitution to serve two consecutive terms. He but he co-opted his country’s justice system to change the rules and run for a third term. That was his first major violation of constitutional rule.

Second, in 2016, he held a referendum to be able to run for a fourth consecutive term and stay in power indefinitely. Morales lost the referendum but ignored the results. That was his second major violation of the will of the people.

Third, having lost the referendum, Morales came up with the ridiculous claim that preventing him from running for a fourth term in 2019 would violate his human rights. He got the government-controlled justice system to validate his bizarre argument. That was his third major rupture of the rule of law .

Fourth, and most important, Morales rigged the Oct. 20 elections, according to his own government-invited foreign election observers and the private firm contracted by the Morales regime to audit the election results.

https://www.roanoke.com/opinion/wire/andres-oppenheimer-bolivia-s-morales-says-he-was-ousted-by/article_d091a0bd-65bf-5b07-9522-978f6665374f.html

And why did Morales invite The OAS to observe the elections if the OAS is so intent on dethroning him as Sanders supporters claim?
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What candidates who cry "coup" in Bolivia won't tell you (Original Post) Xandric77 Nov 2019 OP
You seem really interested in the coup. aidbo Nov 2019 #1
What coup? Xandric77 Nov 2019 #2
I think he's interested in the truth, not grandstanding. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #11
Thanks for this, Xandric peggysue2 Nov 2019 #3
I couldn't care less about it one way or another BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #4
You are correct left-of-center2012 Nov 2019 #5
There's some missing information in the OP. HerbChestnut Nov 2019 #6
No one cares. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #7
Well, poll 5 random ding-dongs & they couldnt tell you who their Senator is. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #10
Absolutely reckless OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #8
Well shit you are 100% sure ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #9
As far as I've seen, only ONE candidate has called it a coup. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #12
+++++++ PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #14
A popular uprising drove him out. Good riddance n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #13
 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
1. You seem really interested in the coup.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:16 PM
Nov 2019
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Xandric77

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2. What coup?
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:26 PM
Nov 2019

Just as I expected. No elaboration.
Did you scold Bernie Sanders for showing interest too?

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oldsoftie

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11. I think he's interested in the truth, not grandstanding.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 04:02 PM
Nov 2019
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peggysue2

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3. Thanks for this, Xandric
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:34 PM
Nov 2019

Puts a different tilt on what we've been hearing about 'other' candidates not coming out in full support of Morales.

Picture is always different when the details are exposed.

Hummmm.

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BannonsLiver

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4. I couldn't care less about it one way or another
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:35 PM
Nov 2019

Something tells me I’m not alone in that among Democrats and the electorate as a whole. If Bernie wants to make that a central issue of his campaign that’s his call, but the crickets outside of bubbles like this are quite loud.

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left-of-center2012

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5. You are correct
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:36 PM
Nov 2019

He stole his 3rd election and was attempting to steal his 4th.
The UN and the European Union said Morales was in office illegally.

"Bernie Sanders, others call it a coup, but never denounced Morales’ election fraud in Bolivia"

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/andres-oppenheimer/article237247604.html

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HerbChestnut

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6. There's some missing information in the OP.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:37 PM
Nov 2019

For anyone interested, read about it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Bolivian_general_election

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Act_of_Reparation

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7. No one cares.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:44 PM
Nov 2019

Seriously.

Go outside and poll five random ding-dongs you find on the street. I will switch my preference and vote for Joe Biden in the primary if 2/3 of those polled can identify Bolivia on a map.

The only people who do give a shit are lefties. So Sanders, knowing very well where the fuck his bread is buttered, has planted his flag firmly in the coup camp.

But I got the sneaking suspicion this issue isn't going to be at the forefront of this primary race.

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oldsoftie

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10. Well, poll 5 random ding-dongs & they couldnt tell you who their Senator is.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 04:00 PM
Nov 2019

Thats the sad state we're in
But your point is correct & I love how you put it!!

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OldRed2450

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8. Absolutely reckless
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:45 PM
Nov 2019

To call this a coup without facts and possible only reason is that they share ideology or Evo said something nice about him.

I'm 100% sure this is how he will govern. No thanks!

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ChubbyStar

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9. Well shit you are 100% sure
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:54 PM
Nov 2019

What more does anyone else need?

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oldsoftie

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12. As far as I've seen, only ONE candidate has called it a coup.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 04:02 PM
Nov 2019

The one who also glorified losers like Chavez.

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PhoenixDem

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13. A popular uprising drove him out. Good riddance n/t
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 05:15 PM
Nov 2019
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