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Xandric77

(54 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 07:06 AM Nov 2019

Analyst: with Trump unopposed, conservatives might vote in open primaries for Gabbard

New Hampshire is one of these states:


Other data cited by Skelley suggests that she’d do better than otherwise expected in open Democratic primaries (like New Hampshire’s) where conservative-tilting indies can participate. Indeed, with Trump facing no real competition on the Republican side, you could see solid Republicans drifting over into the Democratic primaries to cast a vote for a candidate like Gabbard in states with no party registration (e.g., much of the South).

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/tulsi-gabbards-support-skews-conservative-and-male.html
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Analyst: with Trump unopposed, conservatives might vote in open primaries for Gabbard (Original Post) Xandric77 Nov 2019 OP
Is anyone surprised? Tulsi has gone out of her way to solicit such support whether you like her or hlthe2b Nov 2019 #1
re: "She need not launch a third-party bid. The effect is the same." thesquanderer Nov 2019 #5
Both weaken our eventual nominee and may well influence the independant margin we need hlthe2b Nov 2019 #6
Too bad she wasn't left alone to continue to fizzle out. redqueen Nov 2019 #2
Who? MrsCoffee Nov 2019 #3
this has been my fear. n/t MBS Nov 2019 #4
 

hlthe2b

(113,241 posts)
1. Is anyone surprised? Tulsi has gone out of her way to solicit such support whether you like her or
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 07:16 AM
Nov 2019

not. That is simply undeniable with her frequent sojourns to Fox to address her vocal disagreement with other Democrats, Democratic policies and especially those of Obama's administration. She need not launch a third-party bid. The effect is the same. Is that her right? Yes. But, I sure hope she is unsuccessful or we will be looking at Trump reelection.

Remember, while the R's consider bottling up six of our leading candidates in the Senate with stunts during the impeachment trial, Gabbard will be free to line up against them 24/7 on Fox and elsewhere. NO matter what she says, Fox will find ways to use her presence and comments to combat the impeachment message and findings and those presenting/defending the case against Trump. Biden and Buttigieg might not be affected, but everyone else could be.

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thesquanderer

(12,921 posts)
5. re: "She need not launch a third-party bid. The effect is the same."
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 09:00 AM
Nov 2019

How is the effect of running next November against Trump AND a Dem nominee (which she has said many times she won't do) the same as the effect of what she is doing now? The two situations seem entirely different to me.

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hlthe2b

(113,241 posts)
6. Both weaken our eventual nominee and may well influence the independant margin we need
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 09:10 AM
Nov 2019

to win the states that gave Trump victory. I really think this is not hard to understand no matter how much one wants to give Tulsi benefit-of-the doubt. Hardcore Trumpsters influencing our primaries in all the myriad of ways they have shown they will do (along with foreign operatives) is not a good thing. Is this so hard to imagine? You may say Tulsi is not to blame, but she obviously is soliciting them with her constant Fox appearances and her attacks on Dems that goes to Trump's benefit.

You may ask is that not her right? Her right to run with different opinions/policies? Yes, of course, but not to attack the Democratic party from within while giving cover to Trump as a means to get RW support for a candidacy that isn't catching fire with actual Democratic voters. She seizes the "Fox opporunity", yes, but in most cases earning the title "opportunist" is not necessarily a good thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,186 posts)
2. Too bad she wasn't left alone to continue to fizzle out.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 07:47 AM
Nov 2019

Oh well. This is what we have to deal with now.

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