Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe left smells a rat in Bloomberg, Patrick bids
(Disclaimer: the article is co-written by this DU poster's daughter)
Progressives charge latecomer candidacies are an attempt to crush an ascendant left wing.
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN and DAVID SIDERS 11/18/2019 05:00 AM EST
LONG BEACH, Calif. Democratic donors say they want Michael Bloomberg and Deval Patrick to run for president because theyre petrified that a left-wing candidate cant defeat President Donald Trump.
But progressives see a more sinister effort afoot.
Aides and allies to Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, among other liberals, perceive the eleventh-hour campaign launched last week by Patrick and the prospect of an impending Bloomberg 2020 bid as an attempt to crush an ascendant left wing that would expand government more than any other Democratic president in decades.
In their view, Patrick and Bloomberg are stalking horses for moderate Democrats, high-dollar contributors and bundlers desperate to halt the momentum of the economic populists at the top of the polls and regain control of the party levers.
Its no minor intra-party spat in an election where all wings of the Democratic Party will need to be working in concert to beat Trump.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Farmer-Rick
(10,170 posts)Those filthy rich capitalist are constantly attempting to destroy the worker's political uprising.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,978 posts)"stalking horses"...
No cliche left unturned, or metaphor unmixed.
Cue the "Jaws" music. Or maybe the "Twilight Zone" theme.
Can we get some super-scary FX in here, in case anyone missed how incredibly frightening this is supposed to be????
LOL!
Primaries often allow rival interests in a party to compete. God knows Warren and Sanders supporters think it's important to challenge less leftwing candidates for control of the party.
But that doesn't make challenges "sinister." It doesn't make them "rats" or "stalking horses."
That's just silly, melodramatic hype.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)That nothing is a given or guaranteed.
Primaries Exist to allow the party members to identify the direction they want the party to take.
As you wrote - nothing sinister.
This is what competition looks like.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)This idea that people getting into a presidential race is all part of a plot is just foolish - and suggests that some people believe that certain candidates are entitled not to be challenged.
There's a reason we have filing deadlines for declaring a candidacy - so that people know when they need to register. And if the deadlne hasn't yet passed, voters know that other candidates can still get in the race. The idea that someone declaring they're running before the deadline passes is a sinister operation is just bizarre.
If the filing deadline is not operational, when is the REAL deadline for when it was appropriate or permissible for a candidate to declare?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Chambi
(37 posts)It's not hard to see the intention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)The Rodent Genus has come out to play: beavers, chipmunks, gerbils, gophers. guinea pigs. hamsters squirrels, prairie dogs, porcupines. woodchucks, and, everybody's favorite - the lemmings.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MBS
(9,688 posts)At best, their runs are a waste of time and money that could be better spent on promoting the Democratic presidential nominee (which, needless to say, will be neither Bloomberg or Patrick), Democratic candidates in congressional and local races, and helping with causes such as voting rights and election integrity.
At worst, it could lead to political distraction, widening party rifts, and a loss to Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)If they couldn't make up their mind I don't want them running my country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,571 posts)He got in three months after Castro and Klobuchar. Certainly not "the beginning"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Not to wait until after everyone else has been campaigning, raising money and doing all the "footwork" your own money won't buy you votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,362 posts)The 2020 presidential campaign of John Delaney, the former U.S. Representative who represented Maryland's 6th congressional district from 2013 to 2019, was announced on July 28, 2017. Delaney was the first prominent Democrat to announce a campaign for the 2020 U.S. presidential election. If elected, Delaney would be the first Marylander to serve as President of the United States, and the second Catholic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)And when was your "deadline" for anyone getting in? January? April? August?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)would be a reasonable boundary.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)How did you establish that as the cutoff date?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
empedocles
(15,751 posts)between the primary M4A leaners and the general election voters, and the real possibility that the electable Biden will get cut down enough to create the then recognized strong need for another more electable Dem candidate - namely a less bloodied MB-DP-etc.
We all recognize the at least the concept of the importance of a Dem win in November - and many recognize the importance of Dem winning as big as possible.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)The billionaires already have a candidate in Joe Biden. I'm pretty sure they talked Bloomberg into running because they're not sure Biden can win the primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)That their taxes may go up, and probably some other donors that normally support Republicans but want to hedge their bets.
People forget Wall Street has a history of doing this. Wall Street gave a lot of money to Obama in 2008 because they knew McCain had no chance thanks to the economic conditions being left by Bush.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Biden's failing to reach critical mass. Other candidates like Hickenlooper or Tulsi Gabbard haven't gone anywhere.
They're seeing if Bloomberg can poach some votes. Personally I doubt it. I predict failure to launch for these campaigns.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)And Biden leads the progressive wing of the party.
Progressive, as in actually implementing postive change.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,405 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)All the Warren and Sanders supporters will run to Bloomberg. Together with the moderates in the race that will surely concentrate the anti-left vote on one candidate. Brilliant plan by those donors to keep the left wing small.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden