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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:10 PM Nov 2019

Wow. Chris Cillizza finally realizes Biden "may have more strengths than he is getting credit for"

There may be hope yet for the media waking up from their somnambulist narrative. The Twitterverse, not so much...


https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/18/politics/joe-biden-2020-polls-black-voter-support/index.html



Here comes ... Joe Biden?!?!?


Washington (CNN) It's popular -- particularly on Twitter! -- to blast former Vice President Joe Biden and declare his presidential hopes dead. And given his poor fundraising through the end of September and his, uh, middling debate performances, there are some real facts behind that perception.

But one of the under-told storylines of the 2020 campaign to date is that despite the defeatist conventional wisdom, the support for the former vice president has -- and continues -- to show surprising resilience. That's especially true of Biden's support among African Americans, a critical voting bloc in a Democratic presidential primary.

Two polls released Monday out of South Carolina tell that story. In a Quinnipiac University poll, Biden is at 33% with Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts a distant second at 13%. A University of North Florida poll showed much the same -- Biden at 36% with Warren and Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont lagging well behind at 10% each.

Among black voters in the Quinnipiac poll, Biden took 44% to 10% for Sanders and just 8% for Warren. (South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg received less than 1% of the black vote in South Carolina in the new Q poll. Ouch.)

-snip-

Biden's lasting strength in South Carolina and with black voters is mirrored in his improving performance in national 2020 polling as well. Biden was in danger of losing his edge over Warren in national 2020 surveys as recently as a few weeks ago. Now? He averages more than 7 points over Warren, according to the polling database maintained by Real Clear Politics.

To be clear: Biden is still not where he wants to be in Iowa or New Hampshire. And his fundraising needs to get drastically better. But his continued strength in South Carolina -- and the persistence of support from black voters even amid online predictions of his imminent demise -- suggest that Biden may have more strengths than he is getting credit for at the moment.

The Point: Biden isn't the freshest face in the race. He's not the most liberal. He's not the most eloquent. But he may well have the deepest reservoir of support among the key bloc of voters who have decided the identity of the last two Democratic presidential nominees.



CNN added the emphasis to that last paragraph.

I'm glad Cillizza finally figured this out. (He also needs to realize Biden has support from all blocs of Democratic voters.)

But what took him so long?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Cha

(297,196 posts)
1. Interesting.. Thank you,
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:16 PM
Nov 2019

hpd !

Biden's lasting strength in South Carolina and with black voters is mirrored in his improving performance in national 2020 polling as well. Biden was in danger of losing his edge over Warren in national 2020 surveys as recently as a few weeks ago. Now? He averages more than 7 points over Warren, according to the polling database maintained by Real Clear Politics.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
2. Most eloquent speeches. And so well delivered. Consistently makes an emotional connection
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:21 PM
Nov 2019

with audience. Definitely underrated as a public speaker. Rambling, incoherent, stumbling, lost descriptions given the lie to by the respect he has on the world stage, his power and persuasiveness as a VP, and the many occasions, including recent town hall, when Biden has proven effective, and so well received by dint of his communicatory gifts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
3. I am a resilient supporter...not switching in the primary no way and no howvote blue no matter who
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:26 PM
Nov 2019

of course in the general but I am more and more convinced that Biden will be the nominee and show Trumpy Dumpy the door. K&R It is about time, one of this sort notices...too busy being in the tank for a different candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
4. hes got my vote til the end.. and we have caucuses. I had to miss the last one ( my dads 90th bday!)
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:36 PM
Nov 2019

...from what i heard there was some strong arming to sway votes. I wish I would have been there!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,762 posts)
5. This is really good news ..Cillizza has been a complete Biden critic.. no wiggle room
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:39 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,307 posts)
6. I'll wait till he apologizes
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:53 PM
Nov 2019

for his non stop attacks on HRC in 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
7. The media is no friend to democrats for starters, if we have further
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:29 PM
Nov 2019

Bluewave landslides, the elites will be under seize and the media is but one of their defenses.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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