Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWow. Chris Cillizza finally realizes Biden "may have more strengths than he is getting credit for"
There may be hope yet for the media waking up from their somnambulist narrative. The Twitterverse, not so much...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/18/politics/joe-biden-2020-polls-black-voter-support/index.html
Washington (CNN) It's popular -- particularly on Twitter! -- to blast former Vice President Joe Biden and declare his presidential hopes dead. And given his poor fundraising through the end of September and his, uh, middling debate performances, there are some real facts behind that perception.
But one of the under-told storylines of the 2020 campaign to date is that despite the defeatist conventional wisdom, the support for the former vice president has -- and continues -- to show surprising resilience. That's especially true of Biden's support among African Americans, a critical voting bloc in a Democratic presidential primary.
Two polls released Monday out of South Carolina tell that story. In a Quinnipiac University poll, Biden is at 33% with Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts a distant second at 13%. A University of North Florida poll showed much the same -- Biden at 36% with Warren and Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont lagging well behind at 10% each.
Among black voters in the Quinnipiac poll, Biden took 44% to 10% for Sanders and just 8% for Warren. (South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg received less than 1% of the black vote in South Carolina in the new Q poll. Ouch.)
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Biden's lasting strength in South Carolina and with black voters is mirrored in his improving performance in national 2020 polling as well. Biden was in danger of losing his edge over Warren in national 2020 surveys as recently as a few weeks ago. Now? He averages more than 7 points over Warren, according to the polling database maintained by Real Clear Politics.
To be clear: Biden is still not where he wants to be in Iowa or New Hampshire. And his fundraising needs to get drastically better. But his continued strength in South Carolina -- and the persistence of support from black voters even amid online predictions of his imminent demise -- suggest that Biden may have more strengths than he is getting credit for at the moment.
The Point: Biden isn't the freshest face in the race. He's not the most liberal. He's not the most eloquent. But he may well have the deepest reservoir of support among the key bloc of voters who have decided the identity of the last two Democratic presidential nominees.
CNN added the emphasis to that last paragraph.
I'm glad Cillizza finally figured this out. (He also needs to realize Biden has support from all blocs of Democratic voters.)
But what took him so long?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)hpd !
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)with audience. Definitely underrated as a public speaker. Rambling, incoherent, stumbling, lost descriptions given the lie to by the respect he has on the world stage, his power and persuasiveness as a VP, and the many occasions, including recent town hall, when Biden has proven effective, and so well received by dint of his communicatory gifts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)of course in the general but I am more and more convinced that Biden will be the nominee and show Trumpy Dumpy the door. K&R It is about time, one of this sort notices...too busy being in the tank for a different candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,622 posts)...from what i heard there was some strong arming to sway votes. I wish I would have been there!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,762 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,307 posts)for his non stop attacks on HRC in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Bluewave landslides, the elites will be under seize and the media is but one of their defenses.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden