Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders says he's 'disgusted' by Bloomberg's $30 million ad buy
Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) tore into former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Friday over news of Bloomberg's $31.5 million ad buy as he mulls his own White House bid.
Im disgusted by the idea that Michael Bloomberg or any other billionaire thinks they can circumvent the political process and spend tens of millions of dollars to buy our elections. Its just the latest example of a rigged political system that we are going to change when were in the White House, Sanders said in a statement.
If you cant build grassroots support for your candidacy, you have no business running for president. The American people are sick and tired of the power of billionaires, and I suspect they wont react well to someone trying to buy an election.
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Sanderss rebuke hints that Bloombergs immense wealth and ability to dig through a bottomless war chest to blanket the airwaves with ads could emerge as a top line of attack for other liberal candidates in the primary field.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471733-sanders-says-hes-disgusted-by-bloombergs-30-million-ad-buy
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ritapria
(1,812 posts)Bernie's Ready to Roll .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,293 posts)Just kidding. I hate the rich bastard (and I don't mean Bernie) for buying up free speech. It's called free for a reason, which apparently escapes Bloomy completely.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)the corporate media conglomerates (the well paid pundits) will be spoon-feeding the American People all things Bloomberg and it won't need to be based on his poll rankings.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)As if that's some kind of requirement in politics.
Sanders' campaign spent $220 million in 2016. He should know better than anyone that it takes massive amounts of money to be competitive. Criticizing an ad buy seems like an odd line of attack, though he did manage to fit in yet another claim about the system being rigged against him.
He should probably spend less time obsessing about where candidates are getting their funding and more time differentiating himself from the other front-runners. Warren, in particular, seems to be encroaching on his base.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)to his campaign, the same holds true to a lesser extent for most of the other candidates.
Where candidates get their money is critical in determining whose interests they will predominately represent should they come to power.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)Claiming that his sources of funding as a whole are any more or less valid than anyone else's is rather disingenuous.
Campaigns require a lot of cash. For Bloomberg, we know where all the money came from, at least for the moment. Sanders can only account for what his campaign directly raises and spends, and even then, he doesn't itemize most donations.
Is he going to disavow or reject all other funding? How about from PACs like National Nurses United, who spent about $5 million on Sanders ads in 2016?
Of course he's not, but that also undercuts his argument that his funding is somehow purer than everyone else's.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)Definition of plutocracy
1: government by the wealthy
2: a controlling class of the wealthy
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plutocracy
Bernie is raising a lot cash (record amounts actually) but it's from the American People, if his message of universal representation didn't resonate, that wouldn't be the case, that's democracy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Good for Bernie. K&R
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,455 posts)Is he beholden to himself now, in his own pocket?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,728 posts)His own money and his ads are all over the TV machine. Doesn't mean I have to listen to them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,455 posts)It will probably make everyone with a TV on during that week get sick of Bloomberg. It's a pity that Trump didn't have many ads last election -- I thought more Republicans would be sick of him by November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Because of that, people thought he wasn't beholden to special interests, ignoring the fact that is *is* the special interest. We all know how that worked out...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,455 posts)The Democratic Party platform is for regulation, higher taxes on the wealthy, and are not beholden to special interests.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)How much do you really trust Bloomberg, a multi-billionaire, who has a vested stake in those special interests?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)big attack on Trump's corruption and complete lack of integrity and morals.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Joe941
(2,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,394 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)Each dollar is hand certified for purity of essence.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)Too bad a lot of people will miss that comment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,455 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,523 posts)But maybe he'll be around long enough to make trump squirm
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jmowreader
(50,552 posts)News flash: $30 million is NOT a huge ad buy in this day and age, and last I checked neither radio, television nor newspapers give ad space away for free.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ritapria
(1,812 posts)How much money is Bloomberg planning to spend in the next 8 months ? ... 500 million dollars ?.. A Billion ? This is a disgrace
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
whopis01
(3,508 posts)Get your facts straight.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)Huh? Billionaire trying to buy an election? Whats the problem?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,089 posts)that have a chance of getting through Congress while his own proposals are unattainable and unaffordable? Stay tuned.
I don't have much knowledge of what policies Bloomberg will advocate for, but I'm not going to eliminate him from consideration based solely on the fact that he is a billionaire. At the same time, I'm going to be more inclined to vote for the Democrat that has been a member of the party through thick and thin than I will for the candidate that is only a Democrat when presidential elections occur.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,455 posts)You know, he's always talking about how the billionaires and establishment hate him will stop at nothing to defeat him with smears and rigging and corruption things.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,089 posts)I have faith that Democrats are intelligent and will be able to evaluate the policies to select the best candidate to run in the general election. We have a good track record in that regard over the past several decades.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)In a 2 person race Bernie would crush him 2-1 ..Mayor Bloomberg " ain't too popular with POC ...Bernie is in competition with Joe for working class voters and minority voters .. Bernie is now leading Joe amongst Latino voters, still miles behind him with AA's ...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,455 posts)This month in a tweet: "The billionaire class is scared and they should be scared."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,089 posts)I don't know enough about where he stands to make a conclusion since I didn't pay much attention to NYC politics while he was mayor, but your attempt to bait me is amusing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,089 posts)but I'm not going to let anything said on DU influence my decision and after careful consideration if I see Bloomberg as the best option then I reserve the right to change my mind. I'm not particularly wild about any of our top contenders, but I've already eliminated several of the candidates that were on the debate stage on Wednesday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)because he really isn't. In our deeply-flawed political system, though, money can buy a lot of publicity and effectively drown out the voices of less well-funded candidates. I don't think Bloomberg will be able to win the nomination despite his ad buys, but if he really wants to be sure a Democrat defeats Trump, he should spend that money on GOTV or donating generously to PACs supporting other campaigns, or advertising for liberal causes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,155 posts)" The American people are sick and tired of the power of billionaires,..."
...I know I am...
...most people I know are...
...disgusting amounts of wealth owned by a handful of people has ruined our country...
...only Bernie is willing to do something serious about it...
...may God help us all...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)Let us know when he does that ok.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zentrum
(9,865 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)I don't think he has a chance.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....is spending his own money, not others' money.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)What's he afraid of?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)So what's the issue?
Remember this?
https://vtdigger.org/2016/07/15/sanders-campaign-millions-go-to-mystery-firm/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Don't fall for it. We're all on the same side - getting that criminal and his congressional cabal out of our government.
According to https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael-bloomberg-launches-100-million-anti-trump-ad-campaign_n_5dd014c8e4b0294748180270 these are ANTI-TRUMP ads which will help all the candidates with the exception of Tulsi Gabbard.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,855 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)Bernie may be disgusted but he can't yet(never will be able to) tell anyone how they can spend their own money
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided