"The Progressive case against Ukrainegate", K Ball suggests Pelosi & Dems are impeaching trump to

[Cha]

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Link to tweet

Your little theory is Not helpful for the Impeachment Process of the fucking Fascist in the WH, Ball.

In a segment titled “The Progressive case against Ukrainegate”, Krystal Ball suggest Pelosi and Dems are impeaching Donald Trump to keep Bernie Sanders off the campaign trial.

Aaron Mate replies, “I don’t know what goes on behind closed doors.”

ETA~Updated.. it's been deleted but it lives forever.

[evertonfc]

1. Sanders supporters

because I was on in 2016 are a wild card. If you visit thier FB groups and other social media meet ups- many are Bernie or bust. They can be a real problem.

[Cha]

5. Yeah, I know..

Mahalo, evertonfc

[Fresh_Start]

56. they have a lot in common with trump supporters

in terms of being willing to destroy the system if they don't get what they want

[MH1]

59. Which is why

BS should have stayed out this time. If he actually gave a shit about this country and not his own ego. Or maybe he is actually oblivious to the effed-up-ness of his cultiest followers? Surely he can't be THAT out of the loop though.

[Cha]

2. Kicking!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Oh, FFS! Who thinks up this kind of nonsense?

Of course the Establishment Democrats cooked up the whole thing just to keep Bernie from campaigning in January! It's so obvious! Why didn't we see it before? The fact that Warren, Klobuchar, Harris, Booker and Bennett will be in the same situation doesn't matter because of course they only want to destroy Bernie!

Jeez.

[Cha]

10. Right! That's why I posted this.. to show

what's out there.. The Ultimate Case of Victimhood!

[bluedye33139]

30. There's a reason that right-wing billionaire promotes her.

[ritapria]

4. That is crazy

No one is impeaching Trump to keep Bernie off the trail … How could anyone believe that nonsense ? .. Mate and Ms. Ball are speaking for themselves - and virtually no one else …

[George II]

13. Thank you!

[Cha]

48. Yes it is.

[dawg day]

6. "Paranoia strikes deep..."

"Into your life it will creep."

[Cha]

21. Mahalo, dawg day!

[rzemanfl]

7. I wonder what Krystal Ball's stripper name could possibly be.

What bullshit.

[Blue_true]

8. I used to think that Crystal Ball was a future party leader.

Somewhere along the line she jumped the shark totally.

[2naSalit]

26. When she first showed up she seemed

to be headed in a good direction for young democrats. She disappeared for a while and now she's back with his noise.

I think a lot of this is bot garbage. If it's meant to throw a monkey wrench into everything, I leave it where I found it.

[bluedye33139]

31. Observe her affect

Observe her affect when she speaks. There's something very off about her.

[Blue_true]

42. I noticed that also.

I thought that it was due to her jumping the shark so thoroughly. If you look at her eyes, they are mostly static and fixed, like a programmed droid. Her body and arm motion are minimal. Maybe she is like that because she has totally bought in to what she is mouthing, converted zealots behave like she is behaving now.

[Hav]

9. I'll give them that

intended or not, it seems to be a very convoluted way to turn the mood of progressives against impeachment and against the efforts of the Democrats.
Pelosi said that with Trump, all roads lead to Putin. With certain groups/persons, too many paths lead to causing a negative sentiment against the Democratic party and its leaders. Naturally, it's also helping Trump if you can lower the support for impeachment by causing a resistance against impeachment within the party because people are manipulated to believe it's a plot to harm their candidate.

[crazytown]

11. Video

[highplainsdem]

12. She's completely lost her mind.

[Cha]

39. Sad.. reallly..

Link to tweet

[Lucky Luciano]

14. Russian trial balloon.

[George II]

15. That woman has lost her little mind.

[Cha]

18. Like Twilight Zone posted..

these "progressives" actually think they're helping their candidate.

[TwilightZone]

16. The funny thing is that they actually think nonsense like this helps their candidate.

Narrator voice: "It doesn't."

[Cha]

47. They must.. or why

would they do it! With surrogates like this..

[Dopers_Greed]

17. Ever notice how

Leftwing conspiracy theorists always seem to be in service of the right.

[Cha]

49. Oh yeah!

[betsuni]

19. Oh, how fun!

According to these geniuses, there are only two progressive candidates, Sanders and Warren.

Russiagate is a "hawkish Cold War mindset" thing and a conspiracy theory excuse Democrats use because they will not face the hard truth that they lost the last election because they had no policies and Trump did. The "centrist corporatist candidate" (who voted 93% the same when she and Sanders were in the Senate) lost because Trump "ran on issues like trade, was to the Left of Hillary on health care" -- he spoke about these issues and that's why he won (even though the most often used word in Hillary's speeches was "jobs" ). Also he "called out" Hillary on her "legacy" of military intervention by her imaginary administration's Department of Warmongering and claimed to want to "roll back the hawkish mentally of politicians like Hillary Clinton and many others have enrolled the country in." Enrolled? Now the Democrats are being hawkish about Russia, oh my!

Nancy Pelosi has nothing but "contempt" for the only two progressives in the world, is she using Ukrainegate to intentionally stop the only two progressives in the universe? Maybe!: "Overall, I do think that part of the reason we have Russiagate and Ukrainegate is a real hostility to the progressive wing of the Democratic Party" because actually having policies like the only two progressives in the galaxy would threaten Democrats' privileged position in the system so there is a prolonged effort by Democratic leadership to resist resisting against the system (wut).

The End.

What a good fairy tale.

[Cha]

58. lol.. KBall deleted it..

But, it's still written in the OP.

[betsuni]

60. Ha! It would be better not to post such stupid things in the first place.

But that's her job!

[KSNY]

20. How silly...

correlation does not imply causation.
Trump's impeachment will help whoever is the Democratic candidate.

[MustLoveBeagles]

22. What shit is she smoking?

[2naSalit]

27. Worse yet, what's it laced with?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

23. Aaron Fucking Mate.

Ugh.

[D23MIURG23]

24. If Republicans in the senate want to drag this out, thats their choice.

It has nothing to do with Pelosi. Personally, I'd be surprised if they drag it out, because I don't think it looks good for Trump or them, and it keeps their own people off the campaign trail as well.

[ArtTownsend]

25. I'm not sure I want lethal military aid from the US government to end up with Ukrainian Neo-Nazis

Is that such a controversial opinion?

[Dream Girl]

28. Sounds like a cult to me.

[bluedye33139]

29. Why does the billionaire she works for

Why does the billionaire she works for not allow commentary on any of her videos or articles? Why does that site block any commentary at all regarding her? She and her right wing partner consistently push spoiler candidates while attacking the democratic party. Behind a bubble. It's a really weird phenomenon.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. Which right-wing billionaire is that?

[bluedye33139]

34. Jimmy Finkelstein. A cursory Google search will turn this up.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

36. I did a cursory google search and didn't find him. Sorry!

[bluedye33139]

38. No problem.

It irks me that right-wing billionaires are able to put forward people like her to muddy the water.

[BannonsLiver]

32. At this point I consider Ball a Russian asset

And if she’s not, she’s batshit crazy. Maybe a TBI?

[Me.]

35. Oh Honestly

What people will do for cash

[Indykatie]

37. K Ball is an Idiot. The Other Senator Candidates Would Also Be Kept Off the Campaign Trail

[rockfordfile]

40. That sounds like something Russian types would come up with. Batshit crazy

[Peacetrain]

41. That is delusional Cha.. what is wrong with KB?

[Cha]

43. Not very bright that she can't see

she's not helping.

Peacetrain

[R B Garr]

44. Goodness, scraping the bottom of the barrell with conspiracies again.

They embarrass themselves.

Thanks for posting, Cha!

[Cha]

45. Ha.. that's a good way to put it.. ".. scraping the bottom of

the barrel with conspiracies again.."!

It's ridiculous they think this is helping.. clue: Not.

You're welcome, RB!

[mcar]

46. Is this a joke?

No one could be serious about this.

[MrsCoffee]

50. His surrogates are a bunch of fanatics.

That tend to attract other fanatics.

That's the whole game plan there. No dealing in reality with these people.

[Cha]

51. Too much to ask.

[MrsCoffee]

52. It's a familiar strategy.

Toss out anything, see if they can make it stick. Of course the fanatics will believe.

[LanternWaste]

53. I guess blaming the media and polling exclusively is getting old

and a brand new scapegoat is being test-driven by media (oops) surrogates.

But that's just a guess.
“I don’t know what goes on behind closed doors.”

[MineralMan]

54. Well, that's just silly, isn't it?

Both Bernie and Elizabeth Warren will have ample opportunities during the impeachment trial to appear on America's TV screens, I guarantee. Joe Biden, on the other hand, won't have that platform, since he's not a Senator.

There's some unclear viewing going on in that cloudy Krystal Ball, I think.

[Gothmog]

57. I really do not like Krystal Ball

[Gothmog]

61. I stopped paying attention to Ms. Ball a while back

[Cha]

62. I never did!

[Gothmog]

63. That is because you are smarter than I am

I had hoped that having s MSNBC show meant something. I was wrong with respect to Ms. Ball and you were right