Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumI don't want a billionaire president.
I want a president who understands what it is like to struggle financially, based on personal experience. I want a president who has to ask for my donation because they need it to run ads.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)use his money to eliminate Fox news, and not run for president.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
milestogo
(16,829 posts)That is something we really need.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
virgogal
(10,178 posts)I also would like a non Ivy League president,but thats just me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,284 posts)and he was a billionaire, he would be paying a 91% tax rate.
https://www.tax-brackets.org/federaltaxtable/1963
at today's tax rates JFK would be paying 37%
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/taxes/federal-income-tax-brackets/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...so I suppose that person wouldn't want JFK to be president.
You don't know what the tax rate would be today if he were alive today. AND, he wouldn't be paying a 91% tax rate, just on anything EARNED over $200,000, if he had INCOME over $200,000. Plus, based on your tax table if you are making $50,000 you'd be paying incrementally on that $50,000 with a top increment of 72% on anything over $44,000.
Here's that tax table:
$0.00+ 20%
$2,000.00+ 22%
$4,000.00+ 26%
$6,000.00+ 30%
$8,000.00+ 34%
$10,000.00+ 38%
$12,000.00+ 43%
$14,000.00+ 47%
$16,000.00+ 50%
$18,000.00+ 53%
$20,000.00+ 56%
$22,000.00+ 59%
$26,000.00+ 62%
$32,000.00+ 65%
$38,000.00+ 69%
$44,000.00+ 72%
Truth and reality are your friends.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,284 posts)in your favor that your income is more than $200,000.00.
Having said that, major reductions in our tax rates for the wealthiest since JFK's time coupled with the massive hollowing out of the middle class, our nation's crumbling infrastructure, our cruel and dysfunctional health care system designed more for profit than taking care of our people and a host of other critical issues are precisely what have led to the public diminishment of today's billionaires, so comparing JFK's status to today's billionaires is as comparing apples to termites.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....regardless of the side roads you're going down.
A billionaire is a billionaire.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)I think annual income of $8000 would be pretty good in '63. Middle or Upper-middle class. That would put many in the 30%-34% tax brackets.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)$- 20%
$16,820.00 22%
$33,640.00 26%
$50,460.00 30%
$67,280.00 34%
$84,100.00 38%
$100,920.00 43%
$117,740.00 47%
$134,560.00 50%
$151,380.00 53%
$168,200.00 56%
$185,020.00 59%
$218,660.00 62%
$269,120.00 65%
$319,580.00 69%
$370,040.00 72%
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)as long as his wealth was not a result of fraud or other criminal acts.
I want a President who wants to lead the USA and the World to be a better place for all living things.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)even have experience with foreign policy??? Doesn't experience mean anything anymore???
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
milestogo
(16,829 posts)With this job comes great hubris.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Aussie105
(5,327 posts)Billionaire, millionaire, philanthropist, etc - trigger words that mean the person being described is a 'good guy'?
OK, he has more money than me, and 99.9% of the members human race, I'd think.
Who cares?
Is he/she ethical, has a good track record in dealing with people and complex situations, some experience in political matters, diplomacy?
More to the point - opinions and policies on gun control, environmental protection, global heating and the cure for that, immigration, overseas trade - just to mention a few?
Anyone who jumps up and says' I am rich, that is all you need to know, vote for me, I am a Good Guy!' needs a reality check. And a quick whack with the "whack-a mole" hammer!
Don't get hung up on the fact that he says he is a billionaire. Look at the last presidential nominee who said that . . .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)reading his life story. I'm not interested in voting for the guy, but it might surprise you
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)people decided they didnt want a millionaire President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,294 posts)Stop and frisk, his views on the minimum wage, which give off more than a whiff of GOP trickle down economic principles, not to mention his archaic Prohibitionist views on marijuana.
Theres a lot not to like. And what there is to like doesnt outweigh the dislikes.
All of that comes before the simple reality that he has zero idea what its like to identify with anyone below his class. Still, that in itself doesnt make him a bad candidate, the policy does.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Hes the worst. And Ill add his illegal detention of protesters during the GOP convention in 04 plus increasing property taxes on middle class homeowners while cutting taxes for himself and the wealthy.
But the OP didnt mention Bloomberg or any policy. Just a denouncement of billionaires.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomSlick
(11,088 posts)Given the choice, I would prefer a self-financing wealthy person to someone taking contributions from - and thereafter beholden to - the wealthy or PACs.
My rule remains unchanged. When the Arkansas primary comes around, I will vote for the Democratic candidate who appears best able to beat Trump in the swing states that will decide the election - whether a butcher, a baker, a politician, or an investor.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)happy to support him. He's not my top pick but he's far from the bottom of the list of my favorites.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Raine
(30,540 posts)as long as the person understands what life is like for those who aren't billionaires. The Kennedys had plenty of money but were in sync with the average guy and less fortunate more then any other leaders ever have been in this country.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided