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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:12 AM Nov 2019

Just watched Rachel and I'm more committed to Warren than ever.

I've cited climate change and the wealth gap as reasons more important than Trump. I'm adding to that her sharp focus on corruption. Remember her great debate answer about the impeachment hearings? How she turned it into castigating a system where Sondeman could get the EU ambassadorship for 1 million dollars?

Corruption, not just DT's corruption, but widespread, entrenched corruption has to be turned over. It won't be done by trying to "get along."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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brewens

(13,573 posts)
1. I posted quite awhile back that I wanted her to propose a world wide war on white collar
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:24 AM
Nov 2019

crime. Go after the big crooks for fraud, money laundering, tax evasion and whatever else.

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mopinko

(70,077 posts)
2. oh man am i there for that.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 01:16 AM
Nov 2019

paparazi perpwalks worldwide.
happy times are here again.

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
3. Chris Matthews scolded Bernie
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 01:18 AM
Nov 2019

for saying during the debate that the system was corrupt ...He makes multiple millions of dollars a year while his lowly co-workers are forbidden to form a union … He loves the system ...I thought Chris was a Democrat...All that money has turned him into a plutocrat ...He hates Trump - but a plutocrat nonetheless

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Kath2

(3,074 posts)
4. Saw that, also.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 01:32 AM
Nov 2019

Really leaning toward Elizabeth Warren at this point.

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comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
5. Can Warren get her mojo back? Her embrace of MFA and Bernie
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 01:53 AM
Nov 2019

has hurt her. She needs to get away from Bernie's fantasies and get back to appealing to mainstream Democrats. She ran the best campaign of all the candidates from March to September and then faltered badly. If she can recover she can win the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
6. Since Many Middle Class Workers Pay Up To Half Their Wages In Taxes Every Year
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 03:07 AM
Nov 2019

I don't know why anyone would be unhappy.

When I add

Property tax
Sales tax
Cell phone tax
Electricity tax
Tax on fast food
Tickets / Fees
Gas tax
Social Security
Medicare
Income tax
Probably a bunch more I can't think of

When I add it all up, I can pay more than 50% of my "wages" in taxes

Billionsires?

They get to compound their wealth TAX FREE

I wish I wasn't the only one who can add stuff up.

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brewens

(13,573 posts)
9. You can't even tell some people that they are forced to pay more because we let the wealthy off
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 08:22 AM
Nov 2019

easy. They are convinced the answer is to cut government expenditures. The reality is that the government is going to continue to get what it takes to run everything one way or another.

On the old Crossfire on CNN, Michael Kinsley had his "honest republican test". When they were insisting Clinton make more cuts, he said, okay, you go first. What programs from your state or district are you willing to cut to make that happen? No Congressman would ever give an answer to that. Usually they would say it was there obligation to their constituents to get their fair share of what was being spent. Of course everyone keep reelecting their guys for doing exactly that, despite Congress always having a low approval rating.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
7. Warren's focus on entrenched corruption
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 04:45 AM
Nov 2019

is absolutely her bottom line with me.

It is at the root of EVERYTHING that is wrong with the world.

We have the literal Epitome of Corruption occupying the WH today.

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pinkstarburst

(1,327 posts)
12. This
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 11:15 AM
Nov 2019

Elizabeth and Bernie have the courage to try to make things better, even if it's not going to be easy.

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Bettie

(16,089 posts)
8. Given what we are seeing happening every day
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 08:21 AM
Nov 2019

the focus on corruption is huge for me.

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Vinca

(50,261 posts)
10. I would be totally in for Warren if she had Mayor Pete's plan for healthcare.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 08:26 AM
Nov 2019

As it is, I think that one thing will not allow her to win the election because a big chunk of the population is happy with their private insurance.

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Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
11. I also watch Rachel and we need a candidate who can beat trump
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 08:50 AM
Nov 2019

That candidate is Joe Biden. I really do not think that neither Warren nor sanders can beat trump
I also worried that Warren would kill down ballot candidates with her far left plans

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Are you claiming widespread corruption in the DEMOCRATIC Party?
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 11:17 AM
Nov 2019

That would be really mentally screwed.

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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
14. No, of course not. I don't think any of them would be corrupt. But she's owned this fight...
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:34 PM
Nov 2019

... from the beginning. She understands it thoroughly. She's super committed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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