Just saw a Bloomberg ad. I was surprised at how strong it was.

[grantcart]

I thought his entry was something of a joke really,

Never have a chance.

His ad was very impressive.

Now I am not so sure what impact he will have. I suspect he will draw from Biden. His 3 term credentials is going to carry weight.

What do others think?

You can see the ad here:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/24/michael-bloomberg-2020-presidential-campaign-ad

[wiley]

1. Bloomberg is no joke

I could vote for him very easily. Democrats had best watch out to not poison the well in their competition.

[nevergiveup]

2. I am not a fan but

it is an impressive ad.

[grantcart]

4. Its hard for me to be objective because I don't have a feel how the

average folks who don't follow this stuff closely will react.


I am guessing that it will drive Trump nuts, could drive him over the edge.

[thewhollytoast]

6. another view

Toast

[applegrove]

3. I have to say i am glad he is running so many ads. Some billionnaires on the left need to

spend $$$$$$ to break the rightwing nuts out of that bubble and solidify independants in real american values. The right spends billions all the time on right wing radio, the internet, cooption of churches and Fox News all the time. I hope whomever wins, and i have no opinion on Bloomberg but many favourites in the democratic nominee race, runs on "You can vote for Republicans, or America, just not both" (i saw it somewhere). Anyhow. Good to see more airwaves and digital signals filled with actual reality and real values. I'm sure some of those Trump voters are tired of flying around like a baloon that it quickly loosing its air, this way then that, and would welcome the democratic message(s) grounding them. If only we get enough saturation.

[RockRaven]

5. He's better than Trump. Meh. But he's also an avatar of the system which led the USA to a place

where a sufficiently large number (though not a majority, of course, as we are obligated to parse the language) of Americans would vote for Trump -- except unlike Trump he's (probably) actually got the massive Scrooge McDuck vault of gold to swim in (that difference does not actually matter to voters, it seems).

Bloomberg embodies enough neo-liberal economics to lose the democratic-socialist voters, enough law-enforcement-racist-behavior-enabling to lose non-white voters, enough indifference-to-climate-caused-famine-half-a-century-hence to lose young voters, and of course is from NYC so will categorically turn off people from "fly-over" states just by virtue of being from the place they imagine thinks they are "fly-over" even if he's never said anything of the kind... etc.

What could go wrong?

[pnwmom]

7. His website is strong. (And I didn't want it to be.)

[thewhollytoast]

8. who does he stand for eom

[Amimnoch]

33. on his site.

https://www.mikebloomberg.com/getting-stuff-done

[Aussie105]

9. If Bloomberg is selling something the country needs

and he's not just mouthing the right words without meaning them, what's the harm?

He has a job ahead of him though. To convince voters he is serious and qualified to follow through on his words.
Some cynical people may be thinking some politicians say things to buy votes, with no intention or skill to bring those promises to life.
(A bit cynical, I know. But once bitten, twice shy.)

It will take much more than a $30M ad campaign to do that.

[Journeyman]

10. Not a fan but I knew he'd be a formidable candidate . . .

He'll appeal to a wide range of people, both in the Democratic Party and on the right, as well as independents, and he's got the money to get his message out.

My biggest fear is that, failing to garner the nomination, he decides to pursue a third party path. I think he's too smart for that, and hates Trump too much to help hand him the election, but odd things happen to people when they come to possess obscene levels of moolah.

[Quackers]

11. "Minimum wage is one of the dumber ideas we have ever had"

Direct quote from Bloomberg.

[The Valley Below]

27. The quote is out of context...

as Bloomberg in the statement proposed having the same effect (raising income for low wage workers) by increasing the earned income tax credit.

He argument is that an enhanced EITC would have the same benefits for workers, without depressing job creation.

I'm not sure I buy his argument, but it is more complex position than this non-contextualized quote suggests. He offers a different means to the same end.

[msongs]

12. there will be no equivalent counter balance from othe dems candidates, bloomie has it to himself nt

[ritapria]

13. Bloomberg is an old style Moderate Republican

They don't exist anymore but in the 70's and 80's the Republican Caucus was filled with these types ….Left on Social Issues ….Right on Economic Issues ….. He supported Bush-Cheney in 2004 …. No thanks ….One Republican Party is enough ...

[crazytown]

17. Bloomberg is not an Eisenhower/Rockefeller Republican

He is a Goldwater Republican.

[Skidmore]

14. Just no.

Stop and frisk and his repentance just in time to run are so brazen and calculated. This policy destroyed lives and families.

Second, that third term he actually campaigned to have says to me that he thinks the law is something to bend to his wants or needs. How is that thinking different than Trump's? I'm not supportive of having the Democratic party be as vehicle for extending the second Gilded Age.

[rpannier]

19. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...MEN!

Thank you
Couldn't agree more. I'd have added this however, ‘We disproportionately stop whites too much and minorities too little’ in stop-frisk checks

https://nypost.com/2013/06/28/bloomberg-we-disproportionately-stop-whites-too-much-and-minorities-too-little-in-stop-frisk-checks/

[grantcart]

24. Wasn't a question about supporting him, simply how effective do you think his ad was

I am finding it harder to judge how "the average guy" thinks and why we aren't at 65% for removal.

In that context I think he will have a stronger appeal than the pundits are giving him.

Don't really expect any DUers to support him (but didn't expect any to support Gabbard either)

[crazytown]

15. If Romney had spent his Rmoney better on impressive ads

would you have been less critical of his candidacy?

[grantcart]

25. # 24 above

[BigmanPigman]

16. I saw two ads and I hate to admit that they sound appealing.

[stlstdg]

18. Mayor Stop and Frisk

Sorry, but his stop and frisk policy, and his complaint that too many whites
were being targeted by the cops under the policy (though nearly 90% of the
people profiled were people of color) is unforgivable.

A lot of black and brown people, whose only crime was that they were people
of color were humiliated and traumatized. And told that the police state
conditions they were almost exclusively forced to live under were for their
own good.

When a judge ruled the policy unconstitutional Bloomberg, in his arrogance,
said that the judge did not know what she was talking about.

BTW, its a policy that Trump has endorsed.

If by some incredible miracle Bloomberg wins the Democratic nomination, I guess
I'll have no choice but I'll never ever support him in the primary.

[rpannier]

20. What a race that would be; Mayor Stop-and-Frisk vs pReznut Grab Em by the ?u$$y

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

21. He's no joke. A boon to Warren, Sanders.

He'll pull a lot of primary votes from Joe, Pete, and Amy.

[cwydro]

22. I haven't made up my mind about him, but I'm going to give him a listen.

Interesting development.

[brooklynite]

23. It's a powerful ad if you don't presuppose lazy chiches...

“He’s a Republican”

“He’s a plutocrat”

“He hates minorities”

None of these points (which I’ve seen echoed here) are true. He may not be your flavor of Democrat but he’s in the same mainstream as Biden and Bullock are.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. It's a very good ad.

I don't support Bloomberg and it pisses me off that he's trying to buy the nomination. However, I do hope the ad has the effect of making people not want to vote for Trump.

[Doodley]

28. He's putting his own money where his mouth is, and has already

spent billions on progressive causes. Why would that piss you off. Should a billionaire that can afford his own ticket be asking us to send him money?

[Qutzupalotl]

29. Will Bloomberg sell off his media empire if elected?

More importantly, will he refrain from steering his media outfit to slanting news coverage of the primaries while he stands as a candidate?

His outfit has already smeared my candidate by trying to tie him to Zuckerberg. (On what planet is forwarding a couple of résumés considered “advising”?)

[grantcart]

30. Don't have any idea. My question was just about the ad

1) very good ad

2) I have no idea how it will work in the primary. Will it have an impact on Super Tuesday?

3) Bloomberg wouldn't have made the move without a ton of polling.

I just can't see him winning in the primaries. He may knock a couple of candidates out but everyone will coalesce against him

[yonder]

31. Excellent point(s).