Warren Fades Nationally as Buttigieg Surges

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Warren Fades Nationally as Buttigieg Surges

November 26, 2019 at 3:18 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 417 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/11/26/warren-fades-nationally-as-buttigieg-surges/

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A new Quinnipiac poll finds Joe Biden leading the Democratic field with 24%, followed by Pete Buttigieg at 16%, Elizabeth Warren at 14% and Bernie Sanders at 13%.

They are followed by Michael Bloomberg, Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar at 3%. Cory Booker, Andrew Yang, Julian Castro, and Michael Bennet each receive 2%.  No other candidate tops 1%. Eleven percent are undecided.

This represents a 14-point drop for Warren and a 6-point rise for Buttigieg compared to a late October poll. In comparison, Biden and Sanders have remained relatively stable.

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[Gothmog]

1. Quinnipiac national poll: 2020 Dems

Link to tweet

[applegrove]

2. Thank you.

[ritapria]

7. Yang and Bennet are tied at 2%

That is silly .. Yang has developed a serious following .. . All of Bennet's supporters are going to gather with him on Thanksgiving Day ….

[maximusveritas]

21. Yang has a following based on what? The internet?

How many of them are actually Americans old enough to vote?

[evertonfc]

3. I love her politics

but never thought she could expand the map

[Gothmog]

4. Nate Silver-It does appear that most of Warren's erosion on this question is from moderates.

Link to tweet

[applegrove]

6. Interesting.

[honest.abe]

8. I would agree with that.

I love her policies but I dont think she can win nationally.

[honest.abe]

5. I think Dem primary voters are realizing she cant win over AA voters which means..

she can't win.

[spooky3]

9. If that were true, Buttigieg would also be sinking.

I think Warren’s income tax policies are going to/are already hurting her with the expensive-metro suburban voters who are college-educated. By lumping people who are middle class in these areas (given costs of living) in with those who earn millions per year, she may appear to be out of touch with their lives. This group helped swing 2018 our way and almost enabled Clinton to win in 2016.

I say this as someone who very much admires her character and achievements, and who believes that all the candidates know that their proposals will not be passed as-is. I really wish she would re-think some of her plans to keep those that would help lower income people but revise those that may alienate important voting blocs.

[honest.abe]

16. Buttigieg is a different situation.

He really hasn't been a factor until recently. I doubt he will gain much further in the polls.

[Hortensis]

11. I'm going to disagree on causation. I believe the AA monolith would

come to support any solid competent Democrat who committed to their requirements AND became the most electable. Just as they have so far. They've lost a lot of ground with and since the great recession, in spite of President Obama, and no one's in more danger of more losses than them if the Republicans win again.

So I suspect a big reason Warren's not gained more with them, and everyone, is because she's being seen as likable but not the most electable, or likely to be.

Then, of course, there are the others you were referring to.

[msongs]

12. president hillary clinton agrees with you lol nt

[helpisontheway]

15. She almost won this AA woman over until I found out she would make my husband give up

the military benefits that he earned. She lost both of our votes with that.

[ritapria]

10. Warren's drop came from her clumsy handling of MFA

She went from being a strong supporter of MFA to claiming middle class taxes would not have to go up in order to finance this gigantic program … No serious person bought that proposition ……..Then Elizabeth claimed that she was going to pursue the public option, not MFA , in her first 100 days …. ...No serious person believes that MFA is going to be passed after the 2022 mid terms ……....When you try to please everybody you end up pleasing no one ……. This debacle damaged her image as everyone's favorite college professor ….. Too political a look …..She still has a shot ...People have very short memory span these days

[judeling]

13. Yes

Also, Just to detailed. Tripped up by offering to many details.

[Joe941]

14. Yup. It all came to mfa.

[OnDoutside]

19. Yes. I said it months ago, about Kamala and Elizabeth, that jumping on MFA just to "mark" Sanders

was a massive error. It only took a few days for Kamala to realise she made a massive mistake when she flip-flopped on getting rid of private healthcare companies, but even then it was too late. I'm surprised that it took this long for the MFA/Private Healthcare to catch up with Warren. What's gutting about that is there has been little else that isn't popular about her, but you threaten to take away someone's healthcare (that they're happy with), on the vague promise of jam tomorrow, it's the thing of attack ad heaven.

[comradebillyboy]

17. I find this all very surprising. I hope Warren can recover

and move back into contention. I think Biden and Warren are our two best candidates and I would like to see both of them strengthen their positions.

[BlueMTexpat]

18. Per this same poll, Warren is

still the highest ranked second choice. That is a very important point.

She's taken a real beating recently - just because she actually spells out what she plans. Too many have taken advantage of that to mischaracterize those plans or wholly to smear her with them. What too many seem to forget all too quickly is that she is open to modifying her plans and has already done so.

Sadly, those of her detractors who do notice her practical side merely seize the opportunity to beat her to death with that.

Others literally do NOT have plans, just vague promises, and most have no real experience in actual implementation as she does (e.g., practically creating the CFPB from nothing), merely in legislation.

Don't forget that she took hits much earlier in her campaign and came back then. Her grassroots organization is still among the best, if not THE best. Grassroots organization is literally what will win elections.

I sincerely believe that she will come back again. The electorate is still quite fluid. Elizabeth is not a sprinter; she is a marathoner.

And she persists!

[OnDoutside]

20. I agree with you, but she needs to run away from MFA ASAP, say that's all for the future, but in the

meantime we need to fix and expand the ACA, fix prescription drugs and add a public option, which will be heavily discounted for low income families.