Fears mount about Biden's South Carolina firewall

[brooklynite]

The Hill

Joe Biden is counting on his firewall of support in South Carolina to help him win the 2020 presidential nomination. But Democrats are warning that if the former vice president doesn't perform well in Iowa and New Hampshire, his lead in South Carolina could be in jeopardy.

In recent weeks, Biden has been losing ground in the first two early voting states, according to polling. And if he falls behind Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) or South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, he will have to reassert his case to voters, Democratic strategists and political observers say.

“Bad losses in Iowa and New Hampshire, and some other states, could easily hurt Biden,” said Julian Zelizer, a professor of public affairs and history at Princeton University.

So far, the former vice president has retained strong support from voters in South Carolina. A couple of recent surveys showed approximately one-third of likely voters in the Palmetto State plan to support Biden.

[hlthe2b]

1. Not particularly influenced by anything coming out of the "John Soloman" -propaganda HILL

They predict Biden downfall? How unusual, given they have spent years supporting a Trump-lying CT mongerer to MAKE IT SO.

[DarthDem]

2. LOL

"FEARS MOUNT!!!!!"

Mhm. Sure they do.

[J_William_Ryan]

3. It's not just South Carolina.

As the primaries move through the South, industrial Midwest, and Mountain West, Biden will become the clear frontrunner.

[Sloumeau]

4. Biden supporters are not worried at all

Trump lovers have actually been running anti-Biden commercials and Facebook ads at the people living in Iowa. They are so scared of Biden that they are running ads against a potential opponent before Iowa, which is unheard of. With Biden leading Trump by 13 points, no wonder they sare scared, and no wonder they wanted Ukraine to make stuff up about Biden.

[redstateblues]

5. Biden's campaign collapses again!!

As he leads the pack by a substantial number

[Iliyah]

6. The Hill is a rightwing rag . . .

Also read on another site about Republican turn in EC's look strong but alas, so does the Democratic turn out as well. This suggests that although t-rump insane base in rural counties will come out in full force, but so will Democratic strongholds in the cities.

Also, the article failed to mention that rural counties are starting to realize that the economy sucks.

I'm pretty sure The Hill will address it.

[PubliusEnigma]

7. What about Biden's "the Rest of the Country" Firewall?

He leads in nearly every state.

[Polly Hennessey]

8. "Fears mount"?

Source: The Hill. Made me laugh this morning and before my coffee.

[brooklynite]

10. If something is factually incorrect, feel free to point it out.

[Demsrule86]

12. The entire article is incorrect...doing in this case Trump's work for him.

[brooklynite]

15. You're saying that "Democratic strategists and political observers" didn't say this...

...and that Prof. Julian Zelizer wan't quoted?

[Demsrule86]

36. Oh no for sure they said it...been saying it for months...been predicting Biden demise from the

but as always they are wrong...and this particular article is completely fact free. Biden has had the best month since he announce and Warren is declining ...Pete is 'surging' but what does that mean after Iowa since he has AA support?

[Renew Deal]

21. Isn't the fact that Bloomberg and Deval decided to run in November evidence enough?

Biden is weak and everyone knows it.

[emmaverybo]

26. Everyone?

[Demsrule86]

35. No it is not...those who prefer someone else say that...both have been wanting to run...

It is Bloomberg's last chance...presidential fever has no cure. Biden will be the nominee...a fact free bullshit article just like the rest.

[Gothmog]

34. Meanwhile in the real world

Link to tweet

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. The Hill, meh. After John Solomon why do we bother?

Again, meh.

[The Valley Below]

11. Fears mount...

in other's campaigns.

Biden 2020!

[emmaverybo]

27. +1

[crazytown]

13. If Biden does not win a majority of delegates, it will be counted as a failure.

[Demsrule86]

14. I think Warren should be concerned about New Hampshie and Iowa...while Biden won't be hurt by not

coming in first...Warren will be done if she doesn't win one or the other (electability is important for her). I have looked at recent polls...Biden's numbers are holding... and this is the usual fact free Biden bashing. Did Warren gain AA voters? NO. Did any of the others...hmm-NO. We pretty much discount such nonsense.

[Renew Deal]

18. Wouldn't that be true for all candidates?

[crazytown]

20. Biden is the overwhelming favorite in SC

The other candidates are not in the running to get a plurality of delegates, let alone a majority.

[Baclava]

16. Performance anxiety? lol, Polls are completely untrustworthy, only actual votes count

Oh sure, anybody can SAY they will vote for you, but to actually get people to get out in the rain and go VOTE is a different matter

[crazytown]

19. This election is different - as long as trump is prez.

all candidates will benefit from the desperation to get him out.

[Baclava]

24. I'm talking about the primaries, enthusiasm matters n/t

[Demsrule86]

37. I would love to believe this but it is not so...still in the 40's not much different than last time

[Renew Deal]

17. The problem with the Biden campaign is that the case for the Biden campaign is fear.

Vote for Biden because he has the best chance of beating Trump. There is really nothing in his candidacy that you can’t get from someone else.

[crazytown]

22. Unmatched foreign policy experience?

Knowing world leaders on a first name basis?

[Renew Deal]

23. You don't need to know their names

The office carries its own weight.

[emmaverybo]

28. Most qualified. Only one with urgently needed FP experience. Accomplished. Electable. Wide

appeal. Strong and consistent message. Conveys empathy in a way no other candidate does. Unmatched resume. World will be safer with Biden. What’s not to like?

[Demsrule86]

38. Nonsense...I don't support the other candidates because I like Biden's plans better and because he

will win...being concerned about electability should always be a concern for Democrats...you can have the most pure and perfect candidate ever created by man or God...but if said candidate can't get elected...it is for nothing. Biden also has the experience to run foreign policy...none of the other candidates have this sort of experience.

[OldRed2450]

25. The Hill is RW propaganda.

Why would anyone post that stuff here?

[still_one]

31. To stir things up. There is a pattern of this among some posters

[evertonfc]

29. as such

My fears will mount about the next 4 years of Trump

[still_one]

30. Amy Parnes, of let's write a book trashing Hillary after the 2016 lost. The only ones concerned are

those that feel threatened that Biden is still leading in the polls

[Gothmog]

32. If you really believe this, then you can make some money in the betting market

Link to tweet

[aikoaiko]

33. I'm hoping that Biden collapses in SC

It's good to see the experts are pointing to how it could happen.

[FloridaBlues]

39. One more political strategist just what we need.

[George II]

40. Fear is in the eyes of the beholder. Biden is in the mix in both IA and NH, and of the top four....

....NONE will have "bad losses", nor will any of those four have runaway wins.

I don't see "fear" in any of the top four candidates.

[Blue_true]

41. The same ridiculous question was asked about Hillary in 2016.

She crushed Bernie is South Carolina and the rout was on.

In order for Biden to have issues in South Carolina and the South, someone has to breech his African American support, so far no one has remotely done that.

[sheshe2]

42. Oh please.

Per The Hill: Fears Mount!!!!!