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Mon Dec 2, 2019, 05:40 AM

 

Joe Biden is Obi Wan. Only he can save us.

An overwhelming majority of Democrats, and a majority of independents, would vote for a potted plant before they’d vote for Donald Trump.

Which brings us to Joe Biden.

Biden was endorsed by Nevada Democratic Rep. Dina Titus Monday.

Maybe Titus, state Sen. Yvanna Cancela, between a quarter and a third of Nevada Democrats surveyed (depending on the poll), and of course Biden himself are right: Joe Biden is Obi Wan. Only he can save us.

Biden is “the right person at the right time,” Titus said during a joint call with Biden and media Monday.

Read more: https://www.nevadacurrent.com/2019/11/26/so-what-have-we-here/
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Reply Joe Biden is Obi Wan. Only he can save us. (Original post)
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 OP
Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #1
lapfog_1 Dec 2019 #2
Cha Dec 2019 #3
Andy823 Dec 2019 #23
emmaverybo Dec 2019 #54
Eko Dec 2019 #4
vsrazdem Dec 2019 #5
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #7
vsrazdem Dec 2019 #8
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #9
vsrazdem Dec 2019 #10
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #13
vsrazdem Dec 2019 #16
tonedevil Dec 2019 #22
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #24
tonedevil Dec 2019 #25
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #26
vsrazdem Dec 2019 #27
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #30
vsrazdem Dec 2019 #32
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #37
vsrazdem Dec 2019 #38
vsrazdem Dec 2019 #39
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #42
TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #15
Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #52
DownriverDem Dec 2019 #6
loyalsister Dec 2019 #50
Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #11
Gothmog Dec 2019 #12
TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #14
NYMinute Dec 2019 #17
stopbush Dec 2019 #18
Renew Deal Dec 2019 #20
Renew Deal Dec 2019 #19
MineralMan Dec 2019 #21
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #29
MarcA Dec 2019 #28
Vogon_Glory Dec 2019 #31
Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #33
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #34
Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #35
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #36
treestar Dec 2019 #44
Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #48
The Valley Below Dec 2019 #40
Gothmog Dec 2019 #41
crazytown Dec 2019 #43
Gothmog Dec 2019 #46
Gothmog Dec 2019 #45
Hortensis Dec 2019 #47
Gothmog Dec 2019 #49
aikoaiko Dec 2019 #51
TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #53
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onetexan Dec 2019 #56

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 06:02 AM

1. Time will tell

 

I just don't see it at this point.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 06:02 AM

2. I love Joe... but nobody running for President should

 

say "only they can" do something... sounds like Trump...

btw I'm not saying that Joe said this about himself... but he should discourage it from his supporters.
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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 06:08 AM

3. Nobody "sounds like trump" in the Democratic Party..

 

I wish anyone who says that would not say it.

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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:54 AM

23. Yep

 

Even Joe, when asked who else could beat trump, said "they all can"! On this I agree with him.
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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 03:33 PM

54. He has said any other candidate could win against Trump. Gracious enough. No, he

 

does not need to disavow supporters’ claims. Supporters make extravagant claims, for instance, about their candidates’ singular ability to solve the nation’s healthcare problem, transform our political and economic landscape, address hundreds of years of inequity, insisting only they bring forward-looking ideas, the big and bold ones, to the table.

Today, Dr, Robert Green, civil rights leader, said that Biden “will heal and unify the soul of our nation.” He did not say Warren, Sanders, Pete Buttigieg, Michael Bloomberg or Andrew Yang could.

Should Joe push back by claiming that all the other candidates equally “know how to hold different races, cultures, people with different educational backgrounds together,” as Dr. Green suggests Joe knows best how to?




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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 06:33 AM

4. Nice narrative you have crafted.

 

Give me a break buddy.
Eko.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 08:08 AM

5. Obi Wan. Get a grip, any of our candidates can do a great job,

 

and we don't need to be "saved." We just need a fair playing field.
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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:03 AM

7. That's odd.

 

I don't know how many times that I've read on DU that only Bernie can save us.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:15 AM

8. Well not from me. We don't need a Savior.

 

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:30 AM

9. In that case, I will be looking for you to speak up when it occurs.

 

It seems like I encounter that sentiment almost every day.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:36 AM

10. I haven't seen anyone saying their chosen candidate is the Savior.

 

We need a leader to take us in a direction geared toward the people's needs, not a savior.
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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:46 AM

13. Do you need a personal message sent to you the next time I see something along those lines?

 

I'll be happy to assist.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:14 AM

16. I have better ways to use my time. I will just make a blanket statement.

 

No candidate is our SAVIOR. If you would like, you can quote me to any Bernie supporter who says otherwise.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:47 AM

22. You are being rather unpleasant. /nt

 

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 12:15 PM

24. And you are being rather unpleasant making that comment. nt

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #24)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 12:30 PM

25. I understand that...

 

I just can't believe someone would be so shitty as to badger another member, ostensibly another Democrat, because they want the person they are badgering to call out Senator Sanders supporters for doing the exact same thing they are doing in their OP regarding VP Biden.
With that I feel comfortable being unpleasant about calling out someone else's unpleasantness.
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Response to tonedevil (Reply #25)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 12:36 PM

26. Oh, I took a lot of badgering from other members here in the past few months.

 

It's hilarious that people only see what they want to see though. I can't count the number of times that I've read comments that Bernie is the only one that has the solutions, he is the only one, or something similar.

With that I feel comfortable being unpleasant about calling out someone else's unpleasantness (and that member was among those that badgered me).
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 12:51 PM

27. Please do tell me when I have badgered you.

 

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:04 PM

30. I have better ways to use my time. nt

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #30)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:38 PM

32. Because it is not true. I have gotten into heated discussions with a couple of members

 

on this board, but YOU were not one of them, unless it was by way of osmosis.
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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #32)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 02:25 PM

37. I can't check all of my posts in this forum;

 

however, I did look at the OPs that I posted since Labor Day and didn't see any where we interacted.

I do seem to recall some statements along the lines of "Bernie is the only one" from you (those statements may not have included the word "save" and I may not have even posted in those threads, but they were dismissive of all of the other candidates). I'm not going to search for them since my brother just received a new laptop from his company because he had a major problem last week and he needs my help to verify that all of the proprietary apps were set up correctly.

So I'll take the opportunity to apologize to you for my error.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 03:13 PM

38. I have never said Bernie is the only one. I am a Bernie supporter because of his policies,

 

and I believe he is being underrated in the youth vote. That given, any of our candidates can do the job. I just happen to believe in progressive policies and not staying in the status quo. Many Bernie supporters seem to have to justify our support of him, and there are a few on here who can't seem to let a single positive post about Bernie stand, without making some kind of insult.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 03:15 PM

39. PS Thanks for the apology.

 

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #39)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 05:55 PM

42. Peace.

 

I'm always willing to admit when I'm wrong.
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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:52 AM

15. Strongly disagree.

 

"any of our candidates can do a great job"
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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 12:55 PM

52. You think Obama had a 'fair' playing field...no one ever does ...you overcome whatever and win or

 

you don't, but I get sick of what I perceive is the whining of candidates who find themselves with low polls numbers...and I believe we win the popular vote overwhelmingly in 20-but what is that worth exactly? We have to win in the electoral college which is a different matter. Trump's numbers are not much worse than in 16, he could in the Electoral College so now is not the time to run left in terms of our nominee...three states-MI,WI and PA...if Trump wins those states...he gets four more years. There are moderate voters in those states who will vote for a Biden but probably not a Warren or a Sanders. I will vote blue no matter who.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 08:22 AM

6. It's a matter

 

of who can win enough states to beat trump. I don't see folks talking about this.
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 10:38 AM

50. That has not been measured

 

and won't be until election day. We are stuck with projection, speculation, and opinion until then. Everything changed in 2016. Polls are not convincing to me and opinions are biased. I'm looking for a candidate who generates enthusiasm, is least attackable, most forward thinking, and has a been most friendly to the interests of me and people who matter most in my life. That means no saviors, no white fragility, and no support for patriarchy from me unless I have to make that compromise.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:39 AM

11. Holy Hyperbole, Batman.

 

How about if we stop making a single candidate running before the first primary into the messiah? That would good.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:41 AM

12. Congresswoman Titus is the first sitting member of Congress from an early voting state to endorse

 


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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:50 AM

14. He is at the top of my list.

 

Chosen ones only exist in fairy tails.

Except for Timothy Geithner. He was the only one. No one else could have done it. He was the chosen one.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:15 AM

17. K&R nt

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:21 AM

18. "Run, Pete, run!"

 

What Biden says after he disappears into The Force?
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Response to stopbush (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:31 AM

20. If Obama was hope, is Pete new hope?

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:30 AM

19. He should sacrifice himself to let the new hope save us

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:40 AM

21. Likening Joe Biden to a "potted plant?"

 

Now nice of you to do that...
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:02 PM

29. MM, the original title of the article was "So What Have We Here?"

 

I changed the subject of the OP to the final sentences of the fourth paragraph. The original headline is not required except in LBN. I suspect that the article received far more attention because I made that change.

As far as comparing Joe Biden to a potted plant, please note that those words came from the author of the article, Hugh Jackson, rather than me. While I haven't made a decision about who I intend to vote for in the primary, Biden at least remains in my consideration while I have completely eliminated most of the other candidates.

It's an opinion piece, but it isn't necessarily my opinion. I try to post articles reflecting a variety of viewpoints, even if I disagree with those articles because it is a political discussion board. In the meantime, I'm glad that Biden received the endorsement from Rep. Titus and it looks like he will gather more endorsements from other Nevada officials.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:00 PM

28. Very interesting article, especially the last two sentences.

 

Speaks volumes about where the American Experiment has come
both in its structure and dynamics.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:09 PM

31. I would like to vote for Elizabeth Warren BUT

 

Given the choice between seeing Good Old Joe stomp Individual One by a popular landslide (And hopefully enough Electoral College votes to do the job) and Elizabeth Warren narrowly loosing to Agent Orange, I’m unwilling to take risks. I’ll vote for Joe.

If the political landscape shifts dramatically next year and Individual One is out of the running, maybe I’ll reconsider who I’m likely to vote for in the Texas Presidential primary.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:51 PM

33. I don't think you remember how Obi Wan "saved us all" in Star Wars.

 

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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:52 PM

34. You are welcome to take that up with the author of the article. nt

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #34)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:55 PM

35. I'm also welcome to take it up with the person who felt the sentiment was worth sharing.

 

So, what was Obi Wan's contribution, pray tell?
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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #35)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 02:07 PM

36. Since you are trying to make a point

 

you can also answer your own question.
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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #35)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 06:51 PM

44. didn't Obi Wan save them all?

 

Convincing Luke he had the Force? I don't remember.

I don't think the author meant for a global analogy and was only referring to the line: Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.
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Response to treestar (Reply #44)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:35 AM

48. No.

 

Obi Wan's contribution was inspiring the next generation to reject the society the preceding generation had built. Luke, Leia, Han, the Rebellion... they were the saviors of the galaxy. Obi Wan was dead before the curtain fell in the first film.

It doesn't really matter what the author intended with the tagline. They're making still making a literary reference that is rather contrary to the message they're trying to send.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 03:24 PM

40. I don't know from Star Wars, but politics is in my blood.

 

What I firmly believe is that Joe Biden is uniquely poised to beat Donald J Trump in the Electoral College--a considerable task in a strong economy, despite the utterly repulsive nature of this president--and that he is not only in a unique position for beating Trump, but he will also have the longest coattails and will help swing many races--including flipping close Senate races.

Time to be smart. Biden is the person to lead the party in 2020.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 03:30 PM

41. Joe Biden Opens Up 16 Point Lead in New @TheHill Poll; Warren and Sanders Fall

 


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #41)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 06:01 PM

43. HarrisX

 

What would you be saying about a Mark Penn / Scott Rasmussen outfit if their results favored Warren? Penn is getting Oval Office meetings with trump. Not good.
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Response to crazytown (Reply #43)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:18 AM

46. These averages make me smile

 


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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:04 AM

45. These facts make me smile

 


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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:48 AM

47. Our party is very fortunate to have VP Biden in the race.

 

On top of all the important qualifications Biden brings, his broadly popular candidacy has kept the primaries from being characterized by hostile agents as the Democrats "in disarray" "unable" "as usual" "to get their act together," etcetera, etcetera.

Not that they haven't tried, and failed. We're doing good!

Another great value Biden brings to the race is setting a high bar for the others to match. In their own ways, of course. But 50 years of learning just how our endlessly complex and diverse nation works is not going to be one of them.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 10:01 AM

49. I love this new Biden af

 


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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 10:45 AM

51. Didn't Lord Vader kill Obi Wan.

 


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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #51)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 02:51 PM

53. Yes, but the force still lived on. nt

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 06:40 PM

55. These polls make me smile

 


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #55)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 07:04 PM

56. LOVE!! Thank you for posting!

 

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