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BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 08:08 PM Dec 2019

Buttigieg Says He 'Was Slow To Realize' South Bend Schools Were Segregated

“I have to confess that I was slow to realize ― I worked for years under the illusion that our schools in my city were integrated because they had to be because of a court order,”

...

Buttigieg’s remarks come as he struggles to gain Black supporters. His campaign has resonated far more with white supporters in the early primary states of Iowa and New Hampshire.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pete-buttigieg-south-bend-schools-segregated_n_5de51e56e4b00149f732e28e?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaHVmZnBvc3QuY29tLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHvvki2RKCD4Dp55rU1MUWLIIFxGVyCARok7guhM-Et0qoX7q04xz1FyuX1C7FmQPisvi1O-FBw-sP0nqEeUSyeJ4-fCsQEOlzZuwn5gBXKCSzFjmvor3YW3s0Isv6LGj8cZjAQsnD7yCUTmoHxycNfbtk2Z8b9Afq8wfnuvsBUd

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Buttigieg Says He 'Was Slow To Realize' South Bend Schools Were Segregated (Original Post) BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 OP
Since the article was apparently heavily edited without noting just what the edits were dsc Dec 2019 #1
Except the campaign isn't denying the accuracy of the quote. BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #2
"thanks for playing"? crazytown Dec 2019 #3
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #5
I'm sorry to hear that :( crazytown Dec 2019 #7
Too bad for that poster it's a lie BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #12
"that poster" has 47,970 posts against his name. crazytown Dec 2019 #13
And yet their post was flagged & removed BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #14
Forewarned is forearmed. crazytown Dec 2019 #17
+100000 Celerity Dec 2019 #10
This is where Pete's inexperience hurts Otto Lidenbrock Dec 2019 #4
This. eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #6
This will not help Mayor Pete with African Americans Gothmog Dec 2019 #8
He's just not ready for the big leagues. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2019 #9
not true, this OP used very misleading editing, that completely misstates the general thrust Celerity Dec 2019 #11
The "misleading" quote isn't being denied by the campaign. BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #15
you're not a good faith poster, your attempt at spin is invalid, your OP itself is a chop job nt Celerity Dec 2019 #16
 

dsc

(52,155 posts)
1. Since the article was apparently heavily edited without noting just what the edits were
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:06 PM
Dec 2019

it is hard to comment on the very misleading headline. I was at that event. I heard what he said, and no he didn't say his city schools weren't desegregated he said the county's weren't as the story points out.

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BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
2. Except the campaign isn't denying the accuracy of the quote.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:51 PM
Dec 2019

But thanks for playing.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
3. "thanks for playing"?
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:02 PM
Dec 2019

Nice.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
7. I'm sorry to hear that :(
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:45 AM
Dec 2019

Forewarned is forearmed. Thanks.

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BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
12. Too bad for that poster it's a lie
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:58 PM
Dec 2019
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crazytown

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13. "that poster" has 47,970 posts against his name.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:36 PM
Dec 2019

I have found him to be truthful.

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BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
14. And yet their post was flagged & removed
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:01 PM
Dec 2019

Funney how that works

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Celerity

(43,296 posts)
10. +100000
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:01 AM
Dec 2019

another dodgy edited hit job

Buttigieg added that while there was integration “within the limits of the South Bend community school district ... if you looked at the county, almost all of the diversity of our youths was in a single school district.

Indiana law specifies that school districts are independent of cities and mayors’ offices. South Bend schools are governed by the South Bend Community School Corporation, which has a board of publicly elected members.

Though the school system was officially desegregated in 1981 by way of a legal agreement reached in federal court, some of its most integrated schools were permanently shuttered, and students were bused to other locations.


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A spokesperson for Buttigieg’s campaign told HuffPost on Monday that “it’s not just about making sure schools within a district are diverse but about examining how school districts are drawn.”

To remedy the issue, the candidate has proposed a federal pre-clearance policy for any proposed changes to district boundaries to ensure they don’t “further concentrate white students or minority students in separate school districts,” the spokesperson said.
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Otto Lidenbrock

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4. This is where Pete's inexperience hurts
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:04 PM
Dec 2019

He made mistakes as mayor as any newbie local leader will do. The difference is by the textbook you're supposed to show you learned from your mistakes of the past by making things better as you climb the ladder. He's not trying to climb the ladder though - he's trying to jump to the top in one go.

I'm not a fan of the expression "on the job training" but in his case the criticism is valid because if you couldn't see the problems in town, how can we trust you with the whole country.

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Gothmog

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8. This will not help Mayor Pete with African Americans
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:40 AM
Dec 2019
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WhiskeyGrinder

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9. He's just not ready for the big leagues.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:57 AM
Dec 2019
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Celerity

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11. not true, this OP used very misleading editing, that completely misstates the general thrust
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:05 AM
Dec 2019
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BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
15. The "misleading" quote isn't being denied by the campaign.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:03 PM
Dec 2019

They're trying to argue around it without actually addressing the issue.

Just like you are.

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Celerity

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16. you're not a good faith poster, your attempt at spin is invalid, your OP itself is a chop job nt
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:07 PM
Dec 2019

I am not going to keep pushing this tosh up by replying anymore

DONE

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