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Kamala Harris is getting more coverage on MSNBC for dropping out than the whole time (Original Post) TeamPooka Dec 2019 OP
That, right there, is the problem mcar Dec 2019 #1
Exactly, mcar. spicysista Dec 2019 #3
Sad but true. FailureToCommunicate Dec 2019 #2
The media got it's scalp. SaschaHM Dec 2019 #4
She'll be on the short list for VP or a cabinet post AdamGG Dec 2019 #5
really? LeftTurn3623 Dec 2019 #6
No, but it's become the thing to blame the media for your own failings maximusveritas Dec 2019 #14
She was once a top tier candidate, and appeared in every debate. Renew Deal Dec 2019 #7
Sad truth, posted about this yesterday in the Kamala group... PunkinPi Dec 2019 #8
I don't agree...and the media has no business picking candidates...Jeff Jarvis is wrong. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #23
+1 MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #29
And that's the whole fucking problem. They pay attention to the ones who have no business being Autumn Dec 2019 #9
I think the media has been very unfair to Sanders as well as Biden. You would never know Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #22
Pretend Bernie and Biden aren't in it for a minute and think about the media. They haven't been Autumn Dec 2019 #30
I'm sorry judeling Dec 2019 #10
BINGOOOOOOO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #28
This is not an indicator of why her campaign fell apart. Jirel Dec 2019 #11
I agree that the party should change the early states LeftTurn3623 Dec 2019 #18
I am so tired of the blame heaped on Democrats by Democrats...first of all primaries ares Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #20
Yup ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #12
She is also getting more coverage at DU tritsofme Dec 2019 #13
Every single person on MSNBC unprofessionally cheered her on 24/7 for a month after her 1st debate. Skya Rhen Dec 2019 #15
They did...I stopped watching and have not gone back to it...I simply can't stand the fawning over Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #21
Agree. nt Quixote1818 Dec 2019 #26
Disagree Raine Dec 2019 #16
Harris received a lot more coverage when her poll numbers were better than when they dipped. highplainsdem Dec 2019 #17
I feel bad for Sen. Harris but I never supported her in the primary. She did not do well and I Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #19
I want her for the next AG ooky Dec 2019 #24
Early on she was one of MSNBC's favorites and she started out polling pretty good Quixote1818 Dec 2019 #25
It is pretty sad peggysue2 Dec 2019 #27
 

mcar

(42,296 posts)
1. That, right there, is the problem
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:56 PM
Dec 2019

with how the media covers these "horse races."

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spicysista

(1,663 posts)
3. Exactly, mcar.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:00 PM
Dec 2019

One of the most frustrating aspects of this political cycle is the way she was/wasn't covered.

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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
4. The media got it's scalp.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:03 PM
Dec 2019

Why wouldn't they celebrate?

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AdamGG

(1,288 posts)
5. She'll be on the short list for VP or a cabinet post
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:03 PM
Dec 2019

It's frustrating that she didn't catch on more. Warren did a better job of having a clear, defined message.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
6. really?
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:26 PM
Dec 2019

after the first debate she was the golden one. She has no one to blame but herself for the short comings.

She was my first choice when this started and the first person I gave money to. But as time went on I realized she was not the right person to be President.

I still love her and wish her the best. I still like her as a VP

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maximusveritas

(2,915 posts)
14. No, but it's become the thing to blame the media for your own failings
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:54 PM
Dec 2019

Perhaps people are just following Trump's example.
Harris had better coverage than anyone after that debate and was #2 in media coverage behind Biden for a long time before she stumbled.

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Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
7. She was once a top tier candidate, and appeared in every debate.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:28 PM
Dec 2019

How many other candidates that appeared in every debate have dropped out? It's a big drop out.

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PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
8. Sad truth, posted about this yesterday in the Kamala group...
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:43 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
23. I don't agree...and the media has no business picking candidates...Jeff Jarvis is wrong.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:22 AM
Dec 2019

We do need an unbiased media. He knows better...and you have to raise money to remain in a campaign...oh how dare those white guys join the primary and ruin everything for his candidate...seriously disturbing. At the end of the day, this is a competition to see who will be our nominee...and hopefully win the general and kick fucking Trump to the curb...I have not use for such posts which are divisive and reek of self pity. All but one will 'suspend' their campaigns at some point. Let's try to get through this primary and produce a viable nominee...this is undoubtedly the most important election in my lifetime.

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Autumn

(45,037 posts)
9. And that's the whole fucking problem. They pay attention to the ones who have no business being
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:51 PM
Dec 2019

in the race and ignore the ones who are actually what we need and would be on top if the media did their job fairly.

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Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
22. I think the media has been very unfair to Sanders as well as Biden. You would never know
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:15 AM
Dec 2019

that both are doing well by watching TV.

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Autumn

(45,037 posts)
30. Pretend Bernie and Biden aren't in it for a minute and think about the media. They haven't been
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:14 AM
Dec 2019

fair to any of the Dems. They fluff the republicans and Trump, they normalize Trump, they gloss over the crimes by him and his people. They focus on the bullshit republicans and their silliness in the impeachment hearing to where support for it is dropping, The media might be your friend but they aren't mine. I fucking see them. My opinion is that they don't cover people who add to our party. I don't see them on Castro, I don't see them on Klobuchar or Booker. I do see them on Bloomberg, millionaire. I don't see them on Warren unless it's Trump and Pocahontas blah blah. I don't see them on Steyer, a good billionaire who works to elect Dems with some damn good ideas. I see them on Bernie, yeah, old socialist doesn't stand a chance blah blah blah. I see them on Biden, Hunter blah blah blah. But the media is okay. Right? No truth at all that they are biased and pushing the narrative . Sure Bernie and Biden are doing real fucking well with media coverage . If you want to call it that.

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
10. I'm sorry
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:54 PM
Dec 2019

But that is not true at all.

She goy more air time on MSNBC then her poll positions warranted.
If anyone should be complaining it is Bernie.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. BINGOOOOOOO!!
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 02:33 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Jirel

(2,017 posts)
11. This is not an indicator of why her campaign fell apart.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:38 PM
Dec 2019

The media is going to cover the front-runners, roughly in order of where they're surging or expected to surge shortly. Their second criterion is whether there's any juicy gossip about the campaign or the candidate. About the only candidate who has been getting more of his share of coverage, because the media can't comprehend why he isn't taking off like wildfire, is Biden.

Harris has been #4 in my lineup of preferred candidates, and I've been really sad she hasn't been able to surge. But her campaign hasn't been doing a great job either, and she has not had any terrific moments. That happens, especially in a packed field with many good candidates. Hopefully she'll be a Senator, even the AG, for some time, and can run again with lessons learned several years down the road.

If you want to blame anyone, blame the party. The Democratic Party does have a problem in how it handles racial disparities and racism. The early primary states are super white states. That tends to put any person of color at a disadvantage. Rather than starting the contest in the states that just happen to have pushed themselves to the front of the line, the party could finagle the order of primaries so that we have much more diverse states at the opening. It doesn't work really well to whimper about lack of enthusiasm by african-american or latinex voters when by the time the race gets to states with more people of color, the slate of candidates has been winnowed down by some of the whitest populations in the country.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
18. I agree that the party should change the early states
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:16 PM
Dec 2019

But this had nothing to do with Harris. First off no states even voted yet and second she wasn’t polling good in South Carolina.

The truth of the matter is she doesn’t do well with AA voters. Apparently there are lots of issues the AA community has with her.

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Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
20. I am so tired of the blame heaped on Democrats by Democrats...first of all primaries ares
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:11 AM
Dec 2019

state matters...and secondly, I don't believe Iowa or New Hampshire will have an effect this year on Biden ...and I don't think it had anything to do with Harris...she could not connect with AA voters period and would likely have lost Carolina so her funding dried up. Iowa doesn't have the importance it once did especially in a crowded field...the only exceptions are Sen. Warren and Mayor Pete, who need Iowa and New Hampshire to prove electability. The rest of the top four do not. And those not in the top four will not be the nominee...the field is too crowded for such a break out. I also, think we should change the lineup but it will have to be done carefully; we can't order the states to do our bidding. Also, I would remind you that some states are in GOP hands and are unlikely to be cooperative.

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tritsofme

(17,373 posts)
13. She is also getting more coverage at DU
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:35 PM
Dec 2019

Dropping out is newsworthy, her campaign hasn’t been for the most part.

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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
15. Every single person on MSNBC unprofessionally cheered her on 24/7 for a month after her 1st debate.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:14 PM
Dec 2019

She had a whole network doing her bidding while MSNBC simultaneously trashed Biden and still does, to date. There are receipts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
21. They did...I stopped watching and have not gone back to it...I simply can't stand the fawning over
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:13 AM
Dec 2019

first Harris and then Warren...maybe Buttigeig now...not sure. But they don't even acknowledge Biden is leading by double digits.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Raine

(30,540 posts)
16. Disagree
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:18 PM
Dec 2019

she always got lots of coverage as much as the others if not more then most.

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highplainsdem

(48,959 posts)
17. Harris received a lot more coverage when her poll numbers were better than when they dipped.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:25 PM
Dec 2019

Which is typically what happens with candidates.

She also received very favorable coverage, especially during prime time on MSNBC.

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Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
19. I feel bad for Sen. Harris but I never supported her in the primary. She did not do well and I
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:03 AM
Dec 2019

really don't get all the angst about her suspending her campaign...in the end all but one will do the same thing.

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ooky

(8,921 posts)
24. I want her for the next AG
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:33 AM
Dec 2019

with hope she will go after every lawless asshole from this evil administration and all its law breaking cronies.

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Quixote1818

(28,926 posts)
25. Early on she was one of MSNBC's favorites and she started out polling pretty good
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:57 AM
Dec 2019

Her polling and media interest peaked after the first debate. Then she lost her footing and never recovered it.

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peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
27. It is pretty sad
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 02:01 AM
Dec 2019

But Kamala Harris will land on her feet. She's a fighter, underscored by that brilliant response to Trump's snarky tweet. She's going to be sitting in the Senate and will take a huge bite out his ass once the impeachment goes to trial.

Wait for it!

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