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[highplainsdem]

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[5X]

1. That would be an unbeatable combination. n/t

[hlthe2b]

2. Interesting, but not sure what he bases this on besides wishful thinking.

I think it would be a great combo, though not so much in terms of attracting additional EC votes from Battleground states. If people would just wake up to the horror of Trumpism, though, we wouldn't have to worry about that. Biden does garner votes in a lot of those states anyway. Kamala might just have an additive effect for suburban women nationwide.

[BannonsLiver]

8. How many nominees from either party have picked VPs based on geography in the last 20 years?

Hint: It’s less than you think. In that sense, the pick to put in play construct has become a little dated.

[hlthe2b]

12. HRC did; GWBush arguably did; Gore may not have brought Clinton much more than TN, but...

John Kerry clearly did with choice of John Edwards.

[jberryhill]

14. He apparently "wishfully thinks" that Biden is a felon

As do others in this thread.

That sort of "deal" is illegal.

[hlthe2b]

20. ??? A VP selection still has to be voted on at the convention. A presumptive Presidential

candidate can pretty much name their preferred choice at any time. Cite the law barring this, please.

[jberryhill]

21. A candidate can name their preferred choice at any time

What they cannot do is to make a deal that benefits their political interests in exchange for that nomination.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/599

18 U.S. Code § 599. Promise of appointment by candidate

Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2745&context=faculty_scholarship

[htuttle]

3. I'd vote for them

Of course, at this point, I'd vote for 'Ham Sandwich/Bag of Chips' if it were running as a Democrat.

[EveHammond13]

4. I was really hoping for Stacey Abrams so we can win Georgia

[The Valley Below]

5. This guy thinks she "made a deal?"

[peggysue2]

6. I've thought from the start that a Biden/Harris ticket would be a WOWSA

I've had others make good points against the combination but in my heart of hearts the Biden/Harris combo would light up the sky revealing the Trumpster for the small, vindictive man he truly is.

Might be wishful thinking but the possibility puts a smile on my face!

[Auggie]

7. Love it. Of course they'd get my vote.

[LakeArenal]

9. Hope not.

[DeterDeter]

10. I doubt it

Biden seemed genuinely surprised by her announcement to me.

[jberryhill]

11. So Biden is a criminal now?

Olear thinks that Biden and Harris are in an illegal conspiracy?


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/600

18 U.S. Code § 600. Promise of employment or other benefit for political activity

Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment, position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit, provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity or for the support of or opposition to any candidate or any political party in connection with any general or special election to any political office, or in connection with any primary election or political convention or caucus held to select candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.


On edit:

I meant 599, not 600:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/599

18 U.S. Code § 599. Promise of appointment by candidate

Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

[highplainsdem]

17. Doesn't sound like that would apply to being a running mate on a ticket that might lose.

As I read it

any employment, position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit, provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress

refers to government jobs and contracts.

For that matter, I've seen plenty of speculation online that Warren or Sanders might drop out in favor of the other, possibly to become a running mate.

[jberryhill]

18. Missed by one

18 U.S. Code § 599. Promise of appointment by candidate


Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

[Wellstone ruled]

13. Smells like someone is

trying to make themselves relevant . If this did happen,damn unbeatable team would be put together.

[Celerity]

15. Greg Olear is a detestable conspiracy theorist and troll who smeared Biden as Handsey McGee

over the plazzy groping bullshit that was spun up back in the spring, and inferred Pete was a Russian plant (by trying to link him to Gabbard) and help spread the pure lies about Zuckergerg being intimately involved in Buttigieg's campaign.

Olear is a piece of shit.


here is Olear smearing Biden as (not for the first time) Handsy McGee

Link to tweet

Here is a Hoarse Whisperer retweet of a bullshit Olear smear of Buttigieg (Olear smears the vast majority of Dems running for POTUS he is a big Gillibrand fanboy, and says Warren and Harris are the only two real ones left)






It is a full circle clusterfuck of shitbaggery.

[jberryhill]

19. He is accusing Biden of making an illegal deal to nominate Harris

18 U.S. Code § 599. Promise of appointment by candidate

Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

[lark]

16. OMG, be still my beating heart.

I think she would be an absolutely stellar partner in the campaign and in office.

[TidalWave46]

22. Person doesn't sound like he is all there.

Link to tweet

[highplainsdem]

23. After reading Celerity's posts, and jberryhill's, I've decided to self-delete the OP.