Watched the Biden exchange a few times now and think he handled it

[blm]

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pretty well. The older man went too far in his accusations.

I think he struck the right balance, especially since he was righteously angry at the false representation.

[R B Garr]

1. It sure wasn't anything like it was described here.

When you actually see it for yourself, it was fine.

[Thekaspervote]

2. This!

[JoeOtterbein]

3. See below:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/05/people-who-want-ban-fracking-immediately-says-joe-biden-oughta-vote-someone-else?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2I3zalEONiGTuYTUM_Ai9JpeG41Gc2Rah0vh7RF8oAN8prpdxRh60RogQ

And please tell me it is not true!!!!

[Thekaspervote]

4. Meh ...trying way too hard!

[sheshe2]

5. Common Dreams. nt

[JoeOtterbein]

6. So please tell me the video is fake!!!!

I trust you more than most here at DU sheshe2. Please tell me it's fake!!!!

[sheshe2]

7. Common Dreams. nt

[greyl]

8. Yes, Joe Biden really said "I'd love to make sure we don't use any oil or gas."

(Maybe the lucrative offer to Hunter was a long con Lutsenko operation)

[JoeOtterbein]

10. Nooooooooooooooo.......

I'm so hoping someone will prove it's a fake! ASAP!!!!!!

[greyl]

11. C'mon, do you want your posts here to be taken seriously, or not? nt

[JoeOtterbein]

13. It depends. By who? Someone who might be having a horrible dream about our....

...front runner....?..........wimper.

[greyl]

14. "Not" it is, then. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. I take you VERY seriously Joe... and that's no malarkey!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[LanternWaste]

17. I think you're simply "so hoping" it sticks to the wall. It won't.

But we get it...

Consistency.

Hobgoblins.

Little minds.

[Cha]

9. Wow.. thank you for that, blm!

[BigmanPigman]

15. I agree.

I hate double standards.

[questionseverything]

16. has anyone explained why young biden was working in ukraine?

n/t

[redqueen]

20. We're not supposed to ask that.

I think it's considered right-wing. Or something.

[questionseverything]

21. o srry

n/t

[blm]

22. I think there was a NewYorker article that had details.

In-depth reporting and still never determined that there was any wrong done.

The GOP media machine is just running with the APPEARANCE of wrongdoing, as they always do.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign

[questionseverything]

32. lot of info packed into that article

from the link

Several former officials in the Obama Administration and at the State Department insisted that Hunter’s role at Burisma had no effect on his father’s policies in Ukraine, but said that, nevertheless, Hunter should not have taken the board seat. As the former senior White House aide put it, there was a perception that “Hunter was on the loose, potentially undermining his father’s message.” The same aide said that Hunter should have recognized that at least some of his foreign business partners were motivated to work with him because they wanted “to be able to say that they are affiliated with Biden.” A former business associate said, “The appearance of a conflict of interest is good enough, at this level of politics, to keep you from doing things like that.”
In December, 2015, as Joe Biden prepared to return to Ukraine, his aides braced for renewed scrutiny of Hunter’s relationship with Burisma. Amos Hochstein, the Obama Administration’s special envoy for energy policy, raised the matter with Biden, but did not go so far as to recommend that Hunter leave the board. As Hunter recalled, his father discussed Burisma with him just once: “Dad said, ‘I hope you know what you are doing,’ and I said, ‘I do.’ ”


I am not the gop media machine and I think biden needs a better answer than he has previously given and certainly something more concise than this article to explain the "appearance"

[blm]

33. I get that. Chris Heinz wouldn't get involved and

I wish Hunter had listened to him. But, still, there was nothing criminal anyone could point to, however, that doesn’t stop the smear machine.

[dansolo]

23. Yes. Numerous articles have.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hunter-biden-ukraine/what-hunter-biden-did-on-the-board-of-ukrainian-energy-company-burisma-idUSKBN1WX1P7

"Interviews with more than a dozen people, including executives and former prosecutors in Ukraine, paint a picture of a director who provided advice on legal issues, corporate finance and strategy during a five-year term on the board, which ended in April of this year.

Biden never visited Ukraine for company business during that time, according to three of the people."

[Kahuna7]

25. Yeah. 50K a month. I wouldn't turn that down. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. Good question!! Joe?!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[UniteFightBack]

18. Also it's the 'no malarkey tour' aka bullshit so he handled it just fine. nt

[Kahuna7]

24. Exactly. When they said, 'no malarkey,' they meant it....

[healthnut7]

19. I'm confused?

First the media was all over Joe for not saying something awhile back when Trump was going after Hunter.
Now he says something and they are all over him about controlling his anger and that it isn't a good look.
Which is it???

[LakeArenal]

31. Probably the same cast of characters taking both sides.

Some folks gotta keep the pot boiling.

[evertonfc]

27. He handled it perfectly

Many of us are tired of mealey mouth apologists. Fight Joe. Be yourself. Someone attacks your family- gloves off. I thought Joe was a bit reserved.

[SWBTATTReg]

29. Time to turn the tables on rump and his so called 500 companies (according to what he's ...

said)...I wonder how many people he's in bed with and I wonder how many illegal bribes he's made, in order to be a 'big man' overseas in some countries. It seems like a lot of so called business partners have mob characteristics such as language etc., what's up with this? And we worry about a kid w/ legitimate reasons working in Ukraine? Especially one w/ his father as an ex-VP of the USA? Don't you think that this was at the top of their (the Biden's) minds of how this would appear?

rump has far more cause to be looked at, then 10 of Hunter Biden's work in the Ukraine.

[booley]

30. To be honest I wasnt sure which exchange you meant

I guess you mean the one where the guy accuses Biden of corruption in Ukraine.

And not the one on immigration.
Or the one with Fossil Fuels.

Which I think he handled.. less well.

It might still be a problem if you mention a potentially bad exchanegBiden had and peopel cant' be sure which one you mean.

[aikoaiko]

34. It's not a big deal, but he could have handled it a lot better.

[Gothmog]

35. The Hunter Biden issue is bogus

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