Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sander's new hire Darius Khalil Gordon.
Either you believe Bernie does not vet his hires at all which is completely incompetent and should be taken as how he will vet his cabinet should he be President or you believe these hires have been vetted and this is completely on purpose. Neither option is good.
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This thread shows screenshots of his homophobic, misogynist, antisemitic tweets.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,331 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,194 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,862 posts)tweets show he should have been vetted.
Does anyone remember who that last one was?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)He was working for Sanders a couple of months before he was announced.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,187 posts)https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,862 posts)last couple of months who BS had to fire right away because tweets.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,862 posts)thinking with these tweets that live forever.. if they're screen shots anyway.
OldRed!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sop
(10,105 posts)but to not realize these postings follow one around forever is another level of stupid. And to go to work for a presidential campaign thinking this sort of social media past won't be made public is incomprehensible. It's almost as dumb as the Sanders' campaign not properly vetting the guy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,939 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
He says that you put it on Twitter if you want others to judge it.
Ok. Im judging it.
Dude should be fired immediately.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)I'll see if I can post them... edit: see above
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)Apparently, so is Bernie's campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,862 posts)Thank you, George.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Hmm...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)What was he thinking? Antisemitism? Misogyny? He hardly needs any of that as part of his campaign, I think.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)that basically said Bernie doesn't care about social issues. This is looking more and more like a feature.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Bernie has always been all about "economic justice.' That's his thing. It's a very important thing, of course, but it's not the only important thing out there, nor it is it a zero sum game.
Bernie Sanders has a very narrow view of things, it has always seemed to me. He thinks he can build support from people of color simply by telling them he'll make their economic life better. That's his white privilege talking. He thinks women will do better if they have "economic justice." That's his male privilege talking.
What he focuses on is important, but it's not all that, really. In fact, for many people, social justice is the most important thing of all. Bernie doesn't recognize that, so he loses the support of that group of people.
That's why he won't be the Democratic nominee in 2020. It's really simple.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,729 posts)Press secretary? That'd be worse than Sean, Sarah and Stephanie put together!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,729 posts)His social media is alienated him from some crucial constituencies, as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sop
(10,105 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Very bad. It's not going to accomplish what you hoped it would. Instead, it will alienate others you desperately need on your side.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)are the words of a college educated adult.
SMH
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)When someone tells you who they are believe them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)These are extremely horrible, for anyone at any age.
On the other hand, I think it more or less goes without saying that the candidate did not directly vet this hire.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)We do not get to know up front. Who would trust him with a VP pick? Not me. He hires poorly.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,622 posts)I Googled the source for this story and it is the Washington Free Beacon, the same site that sells an Eric Swalwell whoopee cushion. I believe we are not supposed to cite such sources at this site. However, the Tweets stand on their own, but this is the only outlet carrying this story so I am suspicious. As you know, this is a r-w site.
This person is claiming he is the deputy director of constituency communications, but how can a deputy be hired when there is no person in that position to be a deputy to? The position of Constituency Communications Coordinator is open at the Sanders job listings section at his web site: https://boards.greenhouse.io/bernie2020
This is the definition of "deputy": "Deputy is used in combination with the names of various executive officers, to denote an assistant empowered to act in their name; as, deputy collector, deputy ..."
So I reiterate: how can he be a deputy when that position is not yet filled? There is no one to "act in their name," meaning being a constituency communications coordinator.
This person refers to a full-time job "Been so busy with work forgot to tell you all. I have joined the @SenSanders
2020 campaign as the Deputy Director of Constituency Organizing."
I suspect that what we have here is a person who volunteered.
Do all the campaigns, including the Biden campaign, vet volunteers?
This story doesn't add up.
I will await further word from the Sanders campaign before I buy into this. Even if he was selected as a volunteer, I doubt that he will be given any work to do with the kind of attitudes he's expressed in his Tweets.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,622 posts)does anyone here know if any candidate campaign staff vets volunteers? It's a serious question.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,622 posts)Can you give me three or four examples? I'm unaware of any.
I have emailed them with an alert to this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)what did she do?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)@Khalil_202
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,862 posts)Is that like closing the barn door after the horses ran free?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)I think you're expecting something you won't get with regard to this new addition to his staff.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,061 posts)the GE in 2016
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)Nothing to be suspicious about. He claims to be a part of Bernie's campaign and they are his tweets. Shaun King and Linda S congratulated him. He seems to have noticed the attention tho because he just deleted his twitter account.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,622 posts)I said the only people carrying it as a story is a r-w site. How did you find the Tweet? Through the story or are you just browsing Twitter and you just happened to come across it?
I also said the posts stand on their own. The meaning is clear.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Edited to add: If an obscure right-wing site could find the tweets so easily, why couldn't the Sanders campaign?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,622 posts)Beacon was the only site carrying it as a story when I searched.
Don't ask me to speak for the Sanders campaign. For all I know they weren't even aware of it until this guy resigned. If you want the answer to the question, you can email the campaign just as easily as I can.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)whoever first discovered them is irrelevant.
All you are doing is trying to deflect a legitimate criticism of the Sanders campaign by attacking the source of the discovery. And, IMO, the fact that the original discovery may have been made by a right-wing site makes it worse, not better.
If the campaign knew about the tweets, they were reprehensible; if they didn't know, they were incompetent.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)Blaming the messenger is typical. This is a pattern on the part of the campaign. It seems to me they just don't care.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,622 posts)I only posted a press reference because that can sometimes speak to the credibility of the story.
There's a "clear pattern" here and it doesn't have to do with Bernie's hiring practices. It has to do with you reading material into posts and making assumptions that aren't there. This is taught in school, and even though you call yourself "old", I'm sure it was taught in your day. It falls under "critical thinking."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Did they not vet his tweets?
Or they saw them but didnt care.
Pick one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,622 posts)I want to know if volunteers are vetted on all campaigns. Does Klobuchar vet her volunteers? Does Biden? No one has answered my question, which I posted upthread. I'm waiting.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amy hires a racist homophobic sexist staffer, and fires him/her the next day, Ill criticize her campaign for either not vetting properly, or initially being ok with it, but firing based upon feedback. In either case, Id be doubly upset if it happened on multiple occasions.
You?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,622 posts)eom
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Wait all day if you want; no one is under any obligation to respond to whataboutism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)He was not a volunteer, he was a hire. No doubt all campaigns have seedy volunteers sometimes but this is not the case here. Bernie does have a history of this. I think this is the 4th campaign hire that was let go after public opposition to what they have said or wrote i the past. It's fair to ask.. Will he fill agencies with unqualified people without vetting them just because they're loyalist? It's a fair question.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Gays
Women
Asians
Jews
Mentally challenged
Whites
Did I miss any?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Uff da!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,404 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Polack MSgt
(13,182 posts)I will have to quote these 2 - I don't use Twitter and trying to just show the last page of that thread is beyond me.
All quotes (SIC) in advance
"I got a black mans body, a white mans power, a jew man money and an asian man lifespan. LOL"
"Working hard so one day I can make that Jew money"
So yeah... FTG
ETA- What's that old saw? "Once is an accident twice a coincidence but three times is an attack"
Hiring this guy is like the 5th time I've had to question the Vetting standards that the Sanders' campaign use.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,061 posts)need to know about Sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,404 posts)- Sergey Nechayev, Leon Trotsky et al
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Sirota, Neena, this guy. Terrible judgement. The crickets from his supporters here is super amusing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Wawannabe
(5,633 posts)Ive asked one in particular if he/she can defend. ???? Probably wont - crickets is correct!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)It's not a lot of votes but, hey...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to MineralMan (Reply #67)
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TexasTowelie
(111,958 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)What a sorry excuse for a human being.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Works here
https://justiceworksny.org/2014/07/darius-gordon/1361
https://www.netrootsnation.org/profile/darius-gordon/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/darius-khalil-gordon-aa1b6552
I wonder if any of these entities checked his social media. Im thinking no.....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
spooky3
(34,407 posts)An employer; he just has a free profile there.
Im not familiar with NetrootsNation, but from the link you provided, it appears to be an association and not an employer.
Your link to justiceworks describes him as a speaker, not an employee. As with NetrootsNation, he probably spoke at a meeting they had, maybe gratis.
Many people give speeches or do workshops for nonprofit groups (or for companies like Goldman Sachs). That doesnt make them employees.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)My mama taught me, believe what they are telling you. And I do. I believe.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)He makes no qualms about saying it out loud either. The only group, hardest hit is the middle class white man.
Recently, I saw a video of Sanders in a school or something that has like 93% blacks and his audience was still all white.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Believe them the first time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wawannabe
(5,633 posts)Seen this? Defend this?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)There any official response yet?
This isnt a hard call....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)About his other employers?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Someone should ask the The Center for Popular Democracy how they feel about him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)What is wrong with these people who do not vet their hires?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,835 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)What a train wreck.
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(144,939 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,984 posts)A lot of the same people found a hundred excuses for Joy Reid... but Bernie People grow and change. If you haven't found one from last month or last year you guys are scraping the bottom of the magic barrel of smears. Do keep trying.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OldRed2450
(710 posts)Attending a MLK event and getting arrested at a protest 40 years ago and nothing in between is suppose to show how Bernie cares about Civil rights but vile, vulgar comments 10 years ago means nothing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,984 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OldRed2450
(710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,984 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(111,958 posts)it is called vetting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)I don't think we should hold them against Sanders personally, but his staff certainly deserves some criticism for the lack of vetting. If others could easily find them, there's really no excuse for whoever was responsible for hiring the guy not knowing about them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,984 posts)If people give one person a pass and spend outrage on another because they don't like who that person has associated themselves with? I don't waste my time believing they are really outraged over what the other person said.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,984 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,984 posts)don't expect me to be outraged. I'm just sitting back enjoying the Faux outrage .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)It's the same way supporters of the other side act.
This is at least the fourth time the Sanders campaign has done this; I no longer believe it is accidental.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden