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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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mysteryowl

(7,383 posts)
1. It all depends on the media and who they want to highlight.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 12:11 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
2. Iowa always starts far left.. and usually shifts to the center just before caucus
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 12:13 PM
Dec 2019

Its an early move this time. Is it just us? I think Trump is in much bigger trouble than he ever thought. And a cornered rat is a dangerous thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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judeling

(1,086 posts)
4. Don't misread the polls
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 12:42 PM
Dec 2019

it is not a shift to the center, it is a shift (if it is a shift) to safety. And it can flip on a dime.
Right now Biden is getting a bit of a rally effect as people come to his defense that is not a long lasting effect.
Buttigieg continues to benefit from a certain amount of newness and as he gets more focus that could change quickly.

There is a lot of Warren's former support sitting with Mayor Pete right now. If any part of that starts to shift back the swing to moderate swings the other way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,296 posts)
16. Not sure this is just a rally effect.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 10:05 AM
Dec 2019

Biden is campaigning harder and with more passion lately.

He's not in my top 3 right now, but I am pleased that he is finally campaigning like he means it. I think voters respond to that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
5. I think the average American voter is moderate
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 12:55 PM
Dec 2019

Hopefully extremism is out in 2020.

In my humble opinion.

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INdemo

(6,994 posts)
6. I disagree. In 2016 Iowa was a virtual tie
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:00 PM
Dec 2019

The Caucus Delegate count was split between Hillary and Sanders.
There was a Recount started and Bernie Sanders was winning the Delegate count shortly after the recount process started.
In stepped Debbie Wasserman Schultz the DNC chair and stopped the recount and declared Hillary the winner.
This action pissed a lot of Democrats off and they never got over it.
As for Bernie Sanders and his campaign, well there was a lot of hell raised but the media didn't give Sanders protests much air time.
So as far as Iowa Democrats favoring a candidate to the Center , not so.



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Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
7. I'm a Iowa Democrat... and I talk to Democrats across the state all the time..
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:07 PM
Dec 2019

Edit to add.. I have never seen us move back towards the center so early before.

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SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
8. And the tactics of Sanders and his supporters in Iowa really pissed off a different
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 02:02 PM
Dec 2019

segment of Iowa Democrats. Tactics like vilifying Hillary, dissing the Democratic party, and whining about DWS.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
9. None of which justifies DWS pulling a Bush v Gore tactic like she did. nt
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 02:10 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Cha

(297,190 posts)
11. Once again.. Thanks, Goth, for the the Tweet!
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:15 AM
Dec 2019

"8 day No Malarkey tour"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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UncleNoel

(864 posts)
12. Good News, Goth. Thanks. It is worth a separate OP.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 07:20 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
14. The tour is obviously going well, and Joe got a lot of attention after being trolled at that...
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 07:43 AM
Dec 2019

campaign stop. I know some people will insist that the questioner was really a Dem who is genuinely "concerned" about Hunter Biden & Burisma, when most of us know different. Go Joe!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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UncleNoel

(864 posts)
15. MOE +/- 4.1, So it is too close to call, buty the edge is to Biden, Sanders, and Buttigieg.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 07:46 AM
Dec 2019

In New Hampshire, Warren is first at 32,, Biden second at 22 followed by Sanders 20 and Buttigieg 16. MOE +/- 5.

So Warren clearly ahead with Biden and Sanders within the MOE for second withthe edge to Biden. Buttigieg is down somewhat from his surg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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