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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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msongs

(67,404 posts)
1. poor bernie the helpless victim of the massive media boycott nt
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:51 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
7. Guess we arent' going to address the examples, are we?
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:32 PM
Dec 2019

Ok then.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
16. How can such an obscure and unknown candidate prevail?
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:28 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
2. K n R ! Thanks for posting! nt
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:56 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
8. No prob.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:34 PM
Dec 2019

Seemed an interesting take on how the media has treated Sanders.

Not that I think Sanders couldnt' handle more scrutiny. So far the controversies against him have been pretty weak.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. There's no such thing as the "Bernie Blackout".
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:57 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

billpolonsky

(270 posts)
4. MSNBC Is the Most Influential Network Among Liberals--And It's Ignoring Bernie Sanders
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 02:15 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
9. Can't help but notice a trend
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:37 PM
Dec 2019

When it's pointed out the media is treating Sanders differently and examples are cited, we get a lot of people responding..

"NUH UH!!! FAKE NEWS"

Putting aside how this familiar this sounds, it's not really a good counter argument. Or an argument at all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. It's the corollary trend to Sanders' failures in the campaign being blamed on
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:41 PM
Dec 2019

the media and poor polling over and over again.

Familiar, indeed.

Consistency.

Hobgoblins.

Little minds.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
12. since you mention polling
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:16 PM
Dec 2019

Sanders doesn't have poor polling

And yet you wouldn't' know that from looking at cable news.

The video above gave examples. You didn't' have to go far to find this out.

Did you even watch it?

I mean it's a little ironic since you show you are supporting Biden, the guy who says he can beat Trump because he polls well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
17. A 50% drop from his 2016 position isn't "poor polling"? Thanks for the update.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:29 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
18. is 2 larger or smaller then 15?
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 12:09 AM
Dec 2019

Because it seems the number of candidates who are splitting the likely voter base should be a factor.

In any case it's confounding to me that you seem to think the only person Sander's polls numbers should be compared to is ... Sanders. Why is that the metric you want to use?

Where he stands in comparison to the other candidates in this election is a lot more relevant in my opinion. And that's why I was talking about. Even "low polling 21019" Sanders is still far above most candidates like Buttigieg.

Hmm, maybe I answered my own question.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
19. That makes it worse...
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 12:23 AM
Dec 2019

It suggests that the only reason Sanders had as many supporters as he did in 16 was the people didn't have a choice and now they do. It does NOT mean that as candidates drop out, people will shift over to Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Thanks for the insult, but it didn't work.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:00 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
13. It was more of an observation
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:21 PM
Dec 2019

Can you address the examples given int he OP?

Because none of you have done so yet.

If the media as a whole doesn't have a negative bias against Sanders, how can you explain for instance the way the news treats the poll numbers co concerning Sanders?
I mean they outright lied at times.
How do you justify that?



Until you can address the issue, you have no argument. You are irrelevant at best to the conversation. At worst you are actively trying to shut it down. That's not an insult, that's just how that is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. Which is even more of an insult.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:22 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
15. I have no doubt you are offended
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:24 PM
Dec 2019

I just called you out for being a troll. You should feel bad about that. Trolling is bad.

But its not an insult if it's true.

IF you really wanted to show I was wrong, then you should show how I am wrong. Unless you've been writing in invisible characters, I haven't seen you do that.

How do you account for the examples given in the OP?

How is 21 less than 18?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
5. I am sorry to hear...
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 02:23 PM
Dec 2019

... about the media "Blackout" and hope the media reconsider... Bernie did well in the Iowa event yesterday - he was the star, I thought. He's not my first choice, but Bernie spoke well and I saw no reason to stop covering him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
6. Kicked and recommended.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 05:54 PM
Dec 2019

Thanks for the thread booley.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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