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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 12:17 PM Dec 2019

I am extremely grateful that Warren was bold enough to.....

Outline paying for single payer healthcare. Out of all of our candidates supporting single payer she is the only one willing to stick her neck out and define payment(close enough, anyway). This is something even Sanders has refused to do. I'm not sure if people are aware but the M4A bill he introduced does not outline how it will be paid for in any way. It actually defines where the money for single payer will be placed but says noting about how the revenues will actually be generated. Kind of hilarious if you think about it. Sanders then spitballs enough ideas for revenue generation that it's worthless to even debate.

Warren took it to the next level and I think it was a must for us. A must for people like me who feel we have move toward single payer yet fully understand the country isn't ready, congress is even further off. We need bold leaders like Warren who will put it all out there. It helps us move toward a robust public option. It helps to pave the path for it. It helps to build acceptance toward something with more depth down the road.

Free healthcare will never exist. We all know this. It's going to take a lot of people with the courage of Warren who are willing to elevate methods to fund such a hefty project. She is more than an activist, revolutionary, or protest candidate; yet she works to build support for important things like and activist and she will sure as hell join a protest. She is willing to back what she is selling when others are not.

I don't know if it will be what sinks her candidacy. The timing seems pretty clear that it hurt her. She has been so steady and I think she needs to just keep doing what she was doing. I don't view her plan to pay for single payer to be an unsteady move. I actually love how deliberate she was about it. Even ginning up a little excitement with her release date. It's just a hard sell. A really hard sell. I promise you this, she never had to sell me. It was a winner with me on messaging alone. I knew it wasn't going to be popular. I also know I'm in a fight that is going to last decades and that Warren just won a battle along the way. She might not be doing a victory lap but this is more important than many realize. I really hope people get that. There is an aspect that is much bigger than her candidacy.

Others before her have talked about defined ways to pay for such an endeavor. Warren did it on the national stage.

Thank you Warren. Thank you.

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I am extremely grateful that Warren was bold enough to..... (Original Post) TidalWave46 Dec 2019 OP
if there is anything that we need right now, it is someone who brings the facts. mopinko Dec 2019 #1
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mopinko

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1. if there is anything that we need right now, it is someone who brings the facts.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 12:29 PM
Dec 2019

until we all start to accept a common set of facts again, this country is ungovernable as a democracy.
the first step is to put out sets of facts like this, then see them tested in the public square. and keep testing them until people can agree on them. indisputable facts is our only path back from this nightmare, wherever we can find them.

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