Overcoming dark money, along with corporations and billionaires attempts to buy elections will be a difficult enough hurdle to overcome as it is. Democratic infighting due to one’s preferred nominee not being chosen will re-elect Trump. It is no understatement to say it will mean the demise of our democracy. If you’re not afraid, you’re not paying attention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)

4. Pot calling the kettle black.

Reply to dlk (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 10:40 AM

Dec 2019

Not talking about you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brooklynite

(94,792 posts)

5. I remember when coronations were out of favor here...

Reply to dlk (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 10:41 AM

Dec 2019

Criticisms of policy or electablity aren't "infighting"...even when the focus is your candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

dlk

(11,580 posts)

6. There is a difference between legitimate disagreements on policy and kneecapping.

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 02:37 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brooklynite

(94,792 posts)

7. And that definition seems to be very subjective...

Reply to dlk (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 02:39 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

dlk

(11,580 posts)

8. You don't have to agree

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 02:43 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

comradebillyboy

(10,178 posts)

9. I doubt if either one would be willing to play second fiddle to the other.

Reply to sagesnow (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 03:05 PM

Dec 2019

Franky I think Reich is indulging in some fairly absurd wishful thinking. And it also saddens me to see Warren continually portrayed as nothing more than a clone of Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

booley

(3,855 posts)

11. I don't think its about ego

Reply to comradebillyboy (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 04:55 PM

Dec 2019

There are very practical reasons why neither would choose the other as VP.

I know Sanders has said he would like a POC.

Though I think the larger point Reich was making was that Progressivism itself is a winning strategy.

Unfortunately, while I think Warren is sincere, she isn't as progressive as Sanders. And Sanders has been doing it longer. So on that front, she will be overshadowed by Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

booley

(3,855 posts)

10. ironically Sanders wins even when he doesn't

Reply to sagesnow (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 04:51 PM

Dec 2019

He ran in 2016 in order to move the Democratic party to the Left.
And he did that.

He wanted to get other younger progressives to run for office.

He did that.

He wanted people to organize to assert political power.

He's still doing that.

As Sanders has said numerous times, this isn't' about him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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