LA Times: Bernie Sanders endorses a Californian who defends crude sex ratings of women

[ehrnst]

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Bernie Sanders endorsed a California congressional candidate Thursday with a long history of making crude and degrading comments about women and provocative statements about Jews, Muslims and other groups.

The Democratic presidential candidate said Cenk Uygur, founder and co-host of “The Young Turks” online talk show, is “a voice that we desperately need in Congress” to fill the seat of former Rep. Katie Hill of Santa Clarita.

In one episode in 2013, Uygur ranked women on a scale of 1 to 10 on how likely men would be to let them perform oral sex on them.

Uygur also defended the Harvard University men’s soccer team in 2016 for ranking the sexual appeal of female students on a scale of 1 to 10 on a widely shared “scouting report,” including explicit descriptions of potential sex acts with the women.

“We’ve been doing it for as long as humanity has existed, so they put it in a Google doc — not guilty,” said Uygur, who has promoted Sanders on his program.

In 2007, Uygur used the n-word multiple times in a show about Duane “Dog” Chapman after the celebrity bounty hunter used the racial slur.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-12-12/bernie-sanders-endorses-cenk-uygur-young-turks

[padah513]

1. I like all of our candidates and will vote for the nominee regardless of who the nominee is

But this is not a good look.

[ehrnst]

2. Cenk has promoted Bernie on his show for a long time.

It's worth noting that TYT's primary audience is males 18-34.

Link to tweet

TYT has major corporate financial backing from a hedge fund owned by a former GOP governor and congressman. IMAGINE the accusations if Liz Warren was promoted for years by such a media org.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/04/buddy-roemer-firm-invests-4-million-in-young-turks-network-186934

[NurseJackie]

37. THAT IS COMPLETELY VILE AND DISGUSTING!!

It sickens me!

[ehrnst]

42. It should sicken anyone who cares about women and women's social justice issues. He's corporate

media defined, answering to that Republican hedge fund manager.

[George II]

80. Yes, the republican hedge fund manager Buddy Roehmer, AND Russia Today. To the tune of millions!

[still_one]

3. There is a problem with this, and it reflects on judgement in my view.

[ehrnst]

4. Particularly in light of harassment revelations last January.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/30/bernie-sanders-campaign-harassment-1077014

[still_one]

5. Absolutely.

[Eliot Rosewater]

77. Cenk is ANTI Democratic Party...so the endorsement makes perfect sense.

That is if you know what some of us know about things.

I got news for everybody, some here and especially all rumpers, Putin doesnt look fondly on average citizens owning 3 bedroom 2 bath houses with big TV's, nice furniture and a couple late model cars in the garage.

So dont get used to these luxuries, if certain behavour by certain people continues, I can assure you these luxuries are going bye bye.

[NurseJackie]

81. That is the exact reason why "Justice Democrats" exists...

... his contempt of the party.

[mercuryblues]

6. Misogyny runs rapid with this crowd.

Misogyny runs rapid with this crowd. Remember the woman that he wants to replace was run out of office because of a nude pic. But calling women skank’s and giving them ratings according to their sex appeal and saying that there are genetically inferior because of something to do with sex.

[PunkinPi]

17. The fact that this was Katie Hill's seat makes it all the more nauseating...

as someone posted on Twitter...

Replacing Rep. Katie Hill with Cenk Uygur would be replacing her with her ex-husband.

Link to tweet

[Wawannabe]

26. AND BERNIE ENDORSES???

Sick fucks!

[brer cat]

7. The best I can say is this is disappointing.

Cenk does not have a "voice" that I think we need in Congress.

[lark]

8. I seems Bernie does not get at all the "women" thing.

He seems to keep approving of those who devalue us, for his own purposes. i, personally, don't like that. However, if he is the general candidate with a D, I will vote for him in the general and will even work with Fl. Dems. to help this happen.

[ehrnst]

61. I have never heard him say, "It's not enough to say I'm black vote for me' that is not good enough"

Certainly, he knows that would called racially charged, and an insult to that Democratic candidate by implying that they are not running on their platform, or their qualifications, but saying that being black is being " good enough."

However, proclaiming, "It's not enough to say 'I'm a woman, vote for me, it's not good enough" or "It's not good enough for somebody to say 'hey I'm a Latina vote for me' that is not good enough," when a Democratic woman is opposing him or a male candidate who has received his blessing is apparently quite acceptable.

[TidalWave46]

9. Pay to play...

Cenk has been a campaign outlet for Sander completely free of charge. Cenk is more than a Sanders surrogate, he is a PAC for Sanders without the Par for the course when it comes to many career politicians.

Cenk is sick and we should all be running him out of town. Not embracing him.

[ritapria]

10. What absurd slander

Finnegan is engaging in naked slander …. Cenk is a strong progressive voice ….He freely admits he was a Republican dick twenty years ago .. So what? ...He has changed dramatically since then …. TYT is an online giant … Has Finnegan watched TYT ? He is creating a false impression of Cenk …..He is not a potty-mouthed Howard Stern ...He was obviously fed and spewed out this crap from the Hill campaign to smear Cenk and . more importantly Bernie Sanders …. Cenk is a brilliant , gifted critic of Donald Trump … After he endorsed Bernie during the 2016 primary , he became a strong supporter of Hillary and nearly lost his shit on Election Night when he found out the lunatic Trump had been elected ………

[ehrnst]

11. If it's fact, then it's not slander.

Cenk supported Hillary? That's the claim that's "absurd" on this thread.

You call airing youtube pieces like "Why people don't trust Hillary" and "Wikileaks BOMBSHELL Exposes Extent Of Clinton Corruption" in early November of 2016 the work of a "strong supporter of Hillary?"



November 2, 2016:

"Even though she might not be the most corrupt. She is a symbol of that corruption," Uygur explains, “She’s a living embodiment of the establishment, the status quo, this system that the whole country believes has been corrupted."

The fact that she’s taken a lot of money from corporations damages her image and credibility with voters, according to Uygur: "We warned you a thousand times."

Care to retract your claim that he was a "strong supporter of Hillary?"

[ehrnst]

21. Indeed. (nt)

[OhZone]

76. Yeah -

I seem to remember him attacking propaganda before HRC, then PASSING ON propaganda when Hillary started running.

Oh well. I hope he fails.

[OldRed2450]

12. He's a nasty person who in 2013 said swinging your dick at a woman is a natural "pick up" gesture.

[LanternWaste]

14. I'd pretend accuracy is slander too...

Especially when our sacred cows are being slow-roasted over a lukewarm electorate.


"lost his shit" indeed.

[TwilightZone]

16. It's not slander if it's accurate.

In Cenk's case, it's accurate. His misogynistic history, including some relatively recent events, is well-known. Some just choose to ignore it, because he supports their candidates or what he says fits a particular narrative.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justice-democrats-ousts-cenk-uygur_n_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181

"spewed out this crap from the Hill campaign"

The source is the LA Times.

"After he endorsed Bernie during the 2016 primary , he became a strong supporter of Hillary "

That assertion is laughable.

[Wawannabe]

29. Hate women much?

As late as 2013 this sick fuck made some pretty shitty comments about women and here you be. Supporting that shit!

Wow. Just wow!

[TheFarseer]

35. Thank you for injecting some sanity into the conversation

We get a candidate that unapologetically supports impeachment, M4A, living wage, combating climate change, getting money out of politics and all we can do is try to find old off color tweets etc to smear him.

If people want to say the other candidate is better, let’s have that conversation.

[Cha]

39. Yeah, too bad cenk is a lewd serial misogynist who was Kicked out

of jd.. just two years ago.

Link to tweet

This is a to OldRed.. Thank you!

Too bad #Cenk2020 didn't realize how bad sexism "really" was when he spoke about how "being a whore pays off" and how "seriously skanky"' a woman can be and how "when women cheat they're more guilty than men." Not very "progressive" Cenk. And where are your tax returns?#CA25

Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing

The Justice Democrats ousted Cenk Uygur, one of its founding board members and a creator of progressive online network The Young Turks, following the Thursday revelation that Uygur had authored sexist blogposts in the early 2000s.

The left-leaning political organization, which Uygur and others established this year to support progressive primary challenges against Democratic incumbents in Congress, made the announcement Friday. The group also severed ties with David Koller, who co-founded The Young Turks with Uygur and served as Justice Democrats’ treasurer. A 2004 blogpost in which Koller used degrading language about women he and Uygur met on a road-trip surfaced this week as well.

“The words and conduct in Mr. Uygur and Mr. Koller’s posts degrade what it means to be a Justice Democrat,” Justice Democrats executive director Saikat Chakrabarti said in a Friday evening statement announcing the board’s decision to demand Uygur and Koller’s resignations. “We do not feel that Mr. Uygur is fit to lead or participate in an organization that truly believes women’s issues and the issues of black and brown people are all of our issues.”

The Justice Democrats board reached its decision to call for their departures after hearing Uygur’s “side of the story” and consulting with the political candidates the group has endorsed, Chakrabarti said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/justice-democrats-ousts-cenk-uygur_us_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181

[ehrnst]

68. So why do you think Bernie backpedaled on this after all of the pushback from his supporters?

Because if Bernie thought that the people who were criticizing his endorsement of Uygur were unreasonable and wrong, why would he have withdrawn his endorsement for Uygur?

Care to explain?

Because it seems as though you think that Bernie's supporters who were speaking out about Uygur's hate speech are the "insane" ones in "the conversation."

Is any dissent from Bernie's statements to be tolerated? It seems you think he's exempt from the scrutiny that all candidates get.

I would hope we all agree that candidates running on the Democratic ticket can withstand more scrutiny than Trump does without crying foul. It seems as though you think that Sanders can't, or shouldn't have to.

[Cha]

38. NO.. cenk is a lewd serial misogynist who was Kicked

out of jd as being unfit to serve.

Link to tweet

This is a to OldRed.. Thank you!

Too bad #Cenk2020 didn't realize how bad sexism "really" was when he spoke about how "being a whore pays off" and how "seriously skanky"' a woman can be and how "when women cheat they're more guilty than men." Not very "progressive" Cenk. And where are your tax returns?#CA25

Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing

The Justice Democrats ousted Cenk Uygur, one of its founding board members and a creator of progressive online network The Young Turks, following the Thursday revelation that Uygur had authored sexist blogposts in the early 2000s.

The left-leaning political organization, which Uygur and others established this year to support progressive primary challenges against Democratic incumbents in Congress, made the announcement Friday. The group also severed ties with David Koller, who co-founded The Young Turks with Uygur and served as Justice Democrats’ treasurer. A 2004 blogpost in which Koller used degrading language about women he and Uygur met on a road-trip surfaced this week as well.

“The words and conduct in Mr. Uygur and Mr. Koller’s posts degrade what it means to be a Justice Democrat,” Justice Democrats executive director Saikat Chakrabarti said in a Friday evening statement announcing the board’s decision to demand Uygur and Koller’s resignations. “We do not feel that Mr. Uygur is fit to lead or participate in an organization that truly believes women’s issues and the issues of black and brown people are all of our issues.”

The Justice Democrats board reached its decision to call for their departures after hearing Uygur’s “side of the story” and consulting with the political candidates the group has endorsed, Chakrabarti said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/justice-democrats-ousts-cenk-uygur_us_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181

[ehrnst]

44. Um... in 2014 he was working with a Republican owned hedge fund to finance his show

not "20 years ago."

[grantcart]

73. Lol Google Cenk Democratic Party is useless

Cenk was a pedestrian right wing demagogue and became a pedestrian left wing demagogue and never a loyal supporter of the Democratic Party.

If you think Cenk is brilliant then you operate in a universe where compliments for serious thought has been so undermined that the bar for "brilliance" is met when you step off the curb.

[ehrnst]

78. He was ousted from his own Justice Democrats for his sexist blog posts in the early 2000s

Doesn't that mean Justice Democrats were also "slandering" him?

The Justice Democrats ousted Cenk Uygur, one of its founding board members and a creator of progressive online network The Young Turks, following the Thursday revelation that Uygur had authored sexist blogposts in the early 2000s.

The left-leaning political organization, which Uygur and others established this year to support progressive primary challenges against Democratic incumbents in Congress, made the announcement Friday. The group also severed ties with David Koller, who co-founded The Young Turks with Uygur and served as Justice Democrats’ treasurer. A 2004 blogpost in which Koller used degrading language about women he and Uygur met on a road-trip surfaced this week as well.

“The words and conduct in Mr. Uygur and Mr. Koller’s posts degrade what it means to be a Justice Democrat,” Justice Democrats executive director Saikat Chakrabarti said in a Friday evening statement announcing the board’s decision to demand Uygur and Koller’s resignations. “We do not feel that Mr. Uygur is fit to lead or participate in an organization that truly believes women’s issues and the issues of black and brown people are all of our issues.”

The Justice Democrats board reached its decision to call for their departures after hearing Uygur’s “side of the story” and consulting with the political candidates the group has endorsed, Chakrabarti said.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justice-democrats-ousts-cenk-uygur_n_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181

Care to comment?

[ehrnst]

88. Goodness.... someone tell Bernie they are not to be trusted!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12965219

[PhoenixDem]

13. K&R

Cenk Uygur would make any sane person barf.

Bernie made a colossal mistake and he will pay the price in California.

[NYMinute]

15. This is disqualifying

If BS has such poor judgment, how will he assemble his cabinet? He will pack it with toadies instead of getting competent and qualified people.

[dewsgirl]

32. They are huge Bernie Supporters over at TYT, I mean they

worship him.
My son is in the AF and amongst his friends, they all are die-hard Bernie supporters and all of them listen to/are members of TYT.

[MineralMan]

18. I am not a fan of Cenk Uygur. Fortunately, I do not believe he

will be elected as the Representative from that district. I don't care if Bernie Sanders endorsed him. I also don't think that Bernie Sanders will be on the November ballot next year.

[ehrnst]

58. Many people state that Bernie is the metric for "progressivism"

The fact that many of his supporters wouldn't just fall in line apparently didn't occur to him, even after his campaign was warned about the full extent of the Uygur's public hate speech, and was warned off endorsing him.

Part of Sanders's political brand is that he and he alone is always correct about what is and isn't progressive.

It's important to discuss where this be very damaging to a campaign of a candidate on the Democratic ticket, especially on DU.

[MineralMan]

60. As I said, I do not believe that Senator Sanders will be

the Democratic Nominee. His erratic decisions of late that he has had to retract convince me of that.

I don't worry about people not hearing about such decisions from Senator Sanders. They will.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden continues to hold a lead in the primary race, as he has since the very beginning. I think he will be our nominee, based on that history.

[ehrnst]

62. Whether or not you care about his message, or his tactics, they will affect other candidates.

And they need to have sunlight shown on them.

[George II]

20. This is going to significantly damage his support in the California primary next year.

[ehrnst]

22. Yes, and I doubt Cenk will win against the Democratic candidate that is running

who lives there. I imagine that the tired and tone-deaf "It's not enough to say, 'vote for me, I'm a woman" trope will make an appearance.

Again.

https://www.christyforcongress.org/

[highplainsdem]

30. It should.

[Cha]

40. I hope so.. it should.

[Loki Liesmith]

23. Don't care

This is not the reason I wouldn’t vote for Cenk.

[brooklynite]

24. So, you're saying women AREN'T okay with sexual harassment as long as they have health care?

Didn't see that coming.....

[Wawannabe]

25. A brand new low for Sanders

Bernie is a woman hater as proved by his essay recently exposed and NOW THIS SHIT!

AOC is backing a man (Bernie) that secretly (or not so secretly) hates women and I could see that in 2016 with his attitude on HRC- AOC should see it too and take her support to a deserving primary candidate.


Shame on you!! Go home Bernie!

[dlk]

27. Bernie has a sexism issue

[democratisphere]

28. Politics is in the sewer.

Just when you think it can't get worse, it does!

[Tiggeroshii]

31. CYD may rescind their endorsement of him, if he doesnt rescind his endorsement of Cenk

[ehrnst]

66. Looks like Bernie found out that his supporters won't just toe the line on whatever

he says or whosoever he endows with his blessing.

It must have been a huge surprise to him, seeing how he was told about the full extent of Cenk's ugly, ugly past, and went ahead with the endorsement anyway. He must have assumed that he would not get any pushback whatsoever.

It's shocking to me that he didn't consider it to be a dealbreaker when told about it.

But Uygur was quickly dogged by criticism of a series of offensive remarks he made during an earlier incarnation as a conservative provocateur. An array of local women’s and LGBTQ groups denounced those comments and, in some cases, urged Uygur to step aside. Khanna followed Sanders on Friday in pulling his endorsement.

Similar denunciations poured forth again following Sanders’ endorsement on Thursday. Even supporters of the Vermont senator expressed dismay that the progressive standard-bearer would back a candidate, in Uygur, with a problematic history. Local activists also groused that, unlike Smith, Uygur does not live in the district.

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2019/12/13/bernie-rescinds-cenk-uygur-endorsement-after-backlash-1231970

[Tiggeroshii]

72. Well I didn't realize how bad Cenk was until somebody shared those clips.

We live in our echo chambers as much as we try not to.

[radius777]

33. If Cenk wins Dems will have to block him

from serving on any committees.

Cenk and his crowd hate Dems and have more in common culturally with Trumpers.

Wish they would go bother them instead of us.

Wonder what AOC thinks of all of this.

[ehrnst]

43. And of course, Pelosi will be vilified by Cenk's fanbros in any number of misogynistic ways.

I'm thinking that Spencer Thayer will lead the charge.

I can imagine how insufferable Cenk would be to work with, especially for women, considering the misogyny he's displayed on his show.

[revmclaren]

34. This is disqualifying.

ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

[Skya Rhen]

36. Would Bernie give Uyger a role in his administration? This tone-deaf endorsement is very revealing.

[Joe941]

46. I predicted the hit pieces on bernie would increase...

Simply because is rising in the polls. I can gauge how well Bernie is doing simply by how much he is attacked - I dont even need to see the polls.

[ehrnst]

48. So reporting the facts on Cenk Uygur is a "hit piece" on Bernie?

This sounds familiar...

President Trump on Wednesday accused The New York Times of writing a "hit piece" against him for publishing a bombshell report about "dubious" tax practices he used in the 1990s.


Alan Dershowitz: The New Yorker Magazine Writing ‘Hit Piece’ on Me Because I’m Pro-Trump

But do tell me, if the article is simply a hit piece, and has no substance, why has Bernie now retracted his endorsement?

Sanders’ abrupt reversal represented a misstep for Vermont senator and presidential candidate. The California arm of his campaign was warned about Uygur's past comments and urged the national campaign to stay out of the race, sources told POLITICO.

But Sanders endorsed Uygur regardless.

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2019/12/13/bernie-rescinds-cenk-uygur-endorsement-after-backlash-1231970

[Joe941]

49. It's a nothing story being blown out of proportion just to try to hurt bernie.

[ehrnst]

50. The facts about Cenk are ugly. That doesn't mean they were "blown out of proportion."

So if they were "out of proportion," why did Bernie recind his support?

Sanders’ abrupt reversal represented a misstep for Vermont senator and presidential candidate. The California arm of his campaign was warned about Uygur's past comments and urged the national campaign to stay out of the race, sources told POLITICO.

But Sanders endorsed Uygur regardless.

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2019/12/13/bernie-rescinds-cenk-uygur-endorsement-after-backlash-1231970

Sounds like Bernie thought that no one would dare question his judgement. But he was wrong.

Perhaps he thought everyone would just uniformly assume any mention of Cenk's ugly public misogynistic, racist, anti-semitic statements was "blown out of proportion" or "trying to take Bernie down," because Bernie could not possibly have any error in judgement.

Or he didn't consider Cenk's past comments to be ugly enough to be dealbreakers for an endorsement after he was told about them.

What do you think?

[Joe941]

51. He fixes a small mistake. No biggie unless you dont like Bernie I guess.

[ehrnst]

52. That's not "fixing" the fact that he endorsed such a person. It shows that he didn't think that

Uygur's past misogynistic, racist, and anti-semitic statements were unacceptable even after his campaign was told about them.

Only AFTER there was massive and vocal pushback among his supporters, then, and only then, does he seem to acknowledge that most of his supporters and the rest of the public doesn't just give a pass to someone's hate speech simply because they support Bernie. And only THEN does he refuse to endorse someone with such an ugly public past for public office. It took some hubris to think that his supporters would overlook or forgive all of that because Bernie Sanders himself endowed his blessing on his candidacy.

I guess that's no biggie or a "small mistake" if you believe that Senator Sanders doesn't make mistakes or huge missteps. But apparently many other of his supporters didn't think it was a "small mistake:"

Similar denunciations poured forth again following Sanders’ endorsement on Thursday. Even supporters of the Vermont senator expressed dismay that the progressive standard-bearer would back a candidate, in Uygur, with a problematic history. Local activists also groused that, unlike Smith, Uygur does not live in the district.

In-state pushback may also have imperiled Sanders’ prospects in California, a Super Tuesday state and the largest delegate prize on the map. His campaign has invested heavily there, seeking to target the left-leaning electorate and underrepresented blocs like Latino voters.

.

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2019/12/13/bernie-rescinds-cenk-uygur-endorsement-after-backlash-1231970

That's a significant lapse in judgement - both in what his supporters and the people of California will tolerate, much less support in a candidate, and an assumption that his supporters will simply and without question in line behind whatever Bernie says.

Think about that.

[George II]

54. It's not a "small mistake", it was a major blunder by endorsing for CONGRESS....

....a man with a very questionable past and disgusting positions about women and sexuality.

I suppose you also think hiring a man who published racist, disgusting videos (fired him the next day) and a man who put out dozens of homophobic tweets (fired him the next day) are "small mistakes" too? These three incidents occurred over the course of a few weeks.

[ehrnst]

79. Justice Democrats tossed him out for misogyny two years ago. Does Bernie not keep up with them?

The Justice Democrats ousted Cenk Uygur, one of its founding board members and a creator of progressive online network The Young Turks, following the Thursday revelation that Uygur had authored sexist blogposts in the early 2000s.

The left-leaning political organization, which Uygur and others established this year to support progressive primary challenges against Democratic incumbents in Congress, made the announcement Friday. The group also severed ties with David Koller, who co-founded The Young Turks with Uygur and served as Justice Democrats’ treasurer. A 2004 blogpost in which Koller used degrading language about women he and Uygur met on a road-trip surfaced this week as well.

“The words and conduct in Mr. Uygur and Mr. Koller’s posts degrade what it means to be a Justice Democrat,” Justice Democrats executive director Saikat Chakrabarti said in a Friday evening statement announcing the board’s decision to demand Uygur and Koller’s resignations. “We do not feel that Mr. Uygur is fit to lead or participate in an organization that truly believes women’s issues and the issues of black and brown people are all of our issues.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justice-democrats-ousts-cenk-uygur_n_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181

Still think that endorsing a man who was kicked out of the organization that he founded for sexism, that AOC was a board member of a "small mistake" that Bernie made?

One would think that Bernie would have considered this something to be concerned about... I would also think that if he respected AOC, he might have consulted her about Uygur and why he didn't pass muster as being respectful enough of women for them to tolerate his presence. And then trusted her and Chakrabarti's judgement of Uygur as being unfit to lead a progressive organization?

Any thoughts?

[Cha]

75. It is what it is.. BS endorsed lewd serial misogynist cenk.. gets Major BACKLASH

& now has unendorsed him.

[George II]

53. This is not a "hit piece", it's a discussion about an ill-advised endorsement

[ehrnst]

55. Especially "ill advised" considering that Sanders was told about Uygur's past, and still went ahead

with endorsing him.

Real lack of judgement there, and only when he saw that people weren't just going to fall in line behind whoever he blessed did he reverse direction.

[George II]

56. He knew about his past, he knows Uyguy. He even appeared on his "The Young Turks" show.

[ehrnst]

57. Apparently it wasn't a dealbreaker for Senator Sanders, like it was for many of his supporters.

[ehrnst]

63. Yes, I'm sure the LA Times & those other sources said, "You know, Bernie is doing better in a poll,

and of course that means we need to TAKE HIM DOWN!!! What can we make up or exaggerate falsely about him? HEY - there's that endorsement of Cenk Ughur that NO ONE, not even his supporters have an issue with! Stir up some trouble! NOW"

Whatever allows one to rationalize away any dissent or doubt, I guess.



But before all the "hit pieces" came out, this was happening....

But Uygur was quickly dogged by criticism of a series of offensive remarks he made during an earlier incarnation as a conservative provocateur. An array of local women’s and LGBTQ groups denounced those comments and, in some cases, urged Uygur to step aside. Khanna followed Sanders on Friday in pulling his endorsement.

Similar denunciations poured forth again following Sanders’ endorsement on Thursday. Even supporters of the Vermont senator expressed dismay that the progressive standard-bearer would back a candidate, in Uygur, with a problematic history. Local activists also groused that, unlike Smith, Uygur does not live in the district.

Care to explain that? Were these groups and supporters also just 'reacting" to "Bernie doing better in the polls?"

[grantcart]

74. And I predict that the "hit pieces" will rise dramatically when Sanders

Opens his mouth and says reckless stupid things it of course I don't think holding Sanders accountable for his statements is a hit piece.

[ehrnst]

89. You should tell Bernie that the LA Times is out to get him...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12965219

[R B Garr]

47. Ugh, maybe this will finally bring more scrutiny of the rest of

Bernie’s crew—Jill Stein voting Democrat haters.

Cenk is disgusting. This is going to be a huge blow to Bernie coming from the LA Times.

[ehrnst]

59. Apparently, the more respected the source is journalistically, the more intense the accusations of

any article not promoting Sanders being a "hit piece" are.

This is why I hope he has the grace and respect to end his campaign when someone else passes the threshold of 2,268 pledged delegates.

[R B Garr]

64. Yes, I've noticed that, as well. All the well-worn

accusations amplify after even the most basic of vetting. Can’t imagine what it would be like if he was actually scrutinized.

[NurseJackie]

65. How a candidate runs their campaign is a strong indicator of how he or she would govern.

I have to be honest with you, this type of thing does not reflect very well on the campaign that does not do even the most basic Google-search for vetting purposes. Whenever it's just one after another after another (after yet another) this is a sign that there's a real problem. That's no way to run a successful campaign, and it's certainly no way to run our country.

[R B Garr]

67. +++, well said. It shows a total disregard for the

importance of the values you mentioned. It’s just a grab for someone who supports some talking points, and everything else real is not important. It is definitely a sign of lack of leadership.

[ehrnst]

69. After being told about Uygur's hate speech, he still decided to endorse him.

This is flawed judgement concerning social justice issues, and he doesn't seem to get that they aren't simply "identity politics" to other progressives.

It seems Bernie values loyalty to Bernie's candidacy higher than he does some issues important to a huge part of the progressive population.

Only after there was clear damage to his campaign did he reverse course on endorsing who he had been told was a candidate who had made a living stoking hate speech, and was told would be a mistake for him politically.

It must have gobsmacked him to see dissent in any form from his own supporters, and to be forced to acknowledge that someone who disagreed with him on something was correct.

That's not something that would a be a positive in a POTUS, as we've seen.

[Lexee]

70. I think Sanders has clearly shown us he does not care. Other issues are more important.

Well, he tells us that, too. I do not know why we are continually expected not to believe Sanders when he clearly tells and shows us it does not matter to him. Attacking Democrats is more important.

[Cha]

82. This Definitely needs Kicking..

Mahalo, ehrnst!

[betsuni]

83. Yes it does.

[Cha]

84. Hay, betsuni.. Thank you!

Please take a look at this post..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=385196

[betsuni]

85. Oh, thank you!

[Cha]

86. You are most Welcome.. Thank You!

[betsuni]

87. You are welcome too!