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When Gabbard was in the military did she have access to classified materials? (Original Post) yardwork Dec 2019 OP
Good question blm Dec 2019 #1
As an officer, she had to have at least a SECRET clearance Coleman Dec 2019 #2
She wasnt though. boomer_wv Dec 2019 #27
Even if one has a particular clearance, Baked Potato Dec 2019 #3
Why would you ask this? dware Dec 2019 #4
No accusations. I'm asking a question. yardwork Dec 2019 #11
Ok. dware Dec 2019 #13
Given her known background, sarisataka Dec 2019 #5
I doubt that is so much an issue as her Congressional access. Fortunately she's not on Intelligence, hlthe2b Dec 2019 #6
I cannot count all the times while in service, sarisataka Dec 2019 #7
That's very helpful insight. Thanks. yardwork Dec 2019 #12
Are you insinuating that she stole/copies/gave away such documents? brooklynite Dec 2019 #8
Not insinuating anything. Asking a question. This is a discussion board. yardwork Dec 2019 #10
Pete Buttigieg served in the military, but you don't seem interested. I wonder why? brooklynite Dec 2019 #14
Well, why do you think that might be? yardwork Dec 2019 #16
Well, why don't you explain it to us? dware Dec 2019 #31
She's still in the ARNG AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #9
Probably. She holds the rank of Major Jose Garcia Dec 2019 #15
Probably, so what? What are you driving at? There is no no indication that her sevice in the Arrmy.. marble falls Dec 2019 #17
Don't be silly. There are lots of dishonest people in the world. yardwork Dec 2019 #18
Don't you be silly. 99.9% of those who get to be an active Major even in the ... marble falls Dec 2019 #19
I'm not talking about you or anybody but Gabbard. She is demonstrably not honorable. yardwork Dec 2019 #22
In political life, I happen to think you're right. But she's honorably served ... marble falls Dec 2019 #25
Actually, becoming an officer is more about Jill my through the right hoops and not tblue37 Dec 2019 #26
Is there ANY indication that she has been dishonest or dishonorable about her military service? dware Dec 2019 #21
Because someone is sullying her service with unfounded claims of crimes... marble falls Dec 2019 #28
I think you hit the nail on the head, dware Dec 2019 #29
Thats the thing right there: we are better than they are. marble falls Dec 2019 #33
Yes, and as a Congresswoman she has access to much more IronLionZion Dec 2019 #20
Yes, somebody else made that point upthread. Thanks. yardwork Dec 2019 #23
That's a great question. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2019 #24
Why is it a great question? dware Dec 2019 #30
Whatevs. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2019 #32
Wow!!!! dware Dec 2019 #34
 

Coleman

(853 posts)
2. As an officer, she had to have at least a SECRET clearance
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:10 AM
Dec 2019

And as an MP officer in a war zone, I'd have to say that she did have access to classified material.

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boomer_wv

(673 posts)
27. She wasnt though.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 04:28 PM
Dec 2019

Her time in Iraq was as an enlisted soldier in a medical unit. She later got a commission and was an MP, but her deployment was to Kuwait, so not a war zone.

Her access to classified information would have been minimal.

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Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
3. Even if one has a particular clearance,
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:36 AM
Dec 2019

individuals are on a “Need To Know” system. Classified materials are largely compartmentalized. She would have a clearance commensurate to her job and have access to materials generic to that job. So, yes, she could have had access to classified materials.

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dware

(12,363 posts)
4. Why would you ask this?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:24 AM
Dec 2019

Did I miss something? Is she accused of releasing classified info?
Did she actually release classified info?

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yardwork

(61,588 posts)
11. No accusations. I'm asking a question.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:25 PM
Dec 2019
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dware

(12,363 posts)
13. Ok.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:45 PM
Dec 2019

I was just curious if I had missed something about her possibly releasing classified info.

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sarisataka

(18,598 posts)
5. Given her known background,
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:00 AM
Dec 2019

I do not see how she would not have had access to classified information. As an NCO in an MP unit I had access to certain classified information.

What does it matter?

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hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
6. I doubt that is so much an issue as her Congressional access. Fortunately she's not on Intelligence,
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:12 AM
Dec 2019

but she has access to a lot of sensitive information given her committee assignments:
Committees:

House Committee on Financial Services
Subcommittee on National Security, International Development, and Monetary Policy
Subcommittee on Diversity and Inclusion
House Committee on Armed Services
Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities
Subcommittee on Readiness


That said, with Trump as a direct conduit to Putin, aided and abetted by Nunes et al, any mistrust I have for Tulsi pales in comparison.

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sarisataka

(18,598 posts)
7. I cannot count all the times while in service,
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:21 AM
Dec 2019

After properly handling sensitive information about deployments we would then turn and as we watched some politician reveal the information on TV.

Her current access is far greater than what it was but, as you note, the main leak of classified information is coming from a higher position.

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yardwork

(61,588 posts)
12. That's very helpful insight. Thanks.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:26 PM
Dec 2019
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brooklynite

(94,499 posts)
8. Are you insinuating that she stole/copies/gave away such documents?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:27 AM
Dec 2019

If so, provide evidence.

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yardwork

(61,588 posts)
10. Not insinuating anything. Asking a question. This is a discussion board.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:25 PM
Dec 2019
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brooklynite

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14. Pete Buttigieg served in the military, but you don't seem interested. I wonder why?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:53 PM
Dec 2019
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yardwork

(61,588 posts)
16. Well, why do you think that might be?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:02 PM
Dec 2019
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dware

(12,363 posts)
31. Well, why don't you explain it to us?
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 06:52 PM
Dec 2019


Or is this just an attempted slur on her military record?
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Jose Garcia

(2,593 posts)
15. Probably. She holds the rank of Major
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:03 PM
Dec 2019
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marble falls

(57,075 posts)
17. Probably, so what? What are you driving at? There is no no indication that her sevice in the Arrmy..
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:05 AM
Dec 2019

has been anything but honorable.

I question her vote yesterday, but I thank her for her long military service.

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yardwork

(61,588 posts)
18. Don't be silly. There are lots of dishonest people in the world.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 08:44 AM
Dec 2019

Why would you assume that Gabbard is honorable. She blatantly lies - let's start with that. She's clearly being paid to help get Trump re-elected. Not very honorable, eh?

When somebody tells you who they are, believe them.

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marble falls

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19. Don't you be silly. 99.9% of those who get to be an active Major even in the ...
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 10:35 AM
Dec 2019

reserve have something right going for them even if like Lindsey Graham, should never ever be POTUS.

There's a huge list of military vets who honorably serve/served who shouldn't ever be POTUS. Gabbard is only one of them. I'm a vet, I should never ever be POTUS, got any aspersions about my service you want to toss my way?

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yardwork

(61,588 posts)
22. I'm not talking about you or anybody but Gabbard. She is demonstrably not honorable.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:54 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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marble falls

(57,075 posts)
25. In political life, I happen to think you're right. But she's honorably served ...
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 03:50 PM
Dec 2019

in the armed forces and there's absolutely no indication she has ever violated her oath or compromised security in any sort of way. In my mind she's playing a stupid game to be be POTUS by playing to conservative Democrats/anti-impeachment Democrats.

There's enough golden opportunities to consider for not voting for her, I don't need any false narrative as pretext for some sort of "lock her up" type sentiments.

Its ugly when they do it and we are much better than that.

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tblue37

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26. Actually, becoming an officer is more about Jill my through the right hoops and not
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 03:59 PM
Dec 2019

rocking the boat.

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dware

(12,363 posts)
21. Is there ANY indication that she has been dishonest or dishonorable about her military service?
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:32 AM
Dec 2019

I just find it odd that you would ask this question without any explanation as to why you're asking this question.

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marble falls

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28. Because someone is sullying her service with unfounded claims of crimes...
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 04:41 PM
Dec 2019

Its rat fuckery. I won't stand for it done to me or to any of my honorably serving/having served brothers or sisters. I don't have to like her to respect her service.

Don't get me wrong: I hope she is primaried and beaten buy a better Democratic candidate in her district over her shameful "present" vote. I don't anticipate her making it through the Presidential primaries either and I think that will be a good thing.

There's enough wrong with her politics that we surely don't need to gin up serious lies about her abusing her security clearances.

Some people are good soldiers and terrible politicians, what can I say.

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dware

(12,363 posts)
29. I think you hit the nail on the head,
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 06:45 PM
Dec 2019

else why would this person ask such a question.

It's very distasteful to do such a thing and I would think as Dems, we are better than this, although it would seem some are not.

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marble falls

(57,075 posts)
33. Thats the thing right there: we are better than they are.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 07:07 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IronLionZion

(45,425 posts)
20. Yes, and as a Congresswoman she has access to much more
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:25 AM
Dec 2019

She's currently a Major in the Hawaii Army National Guard but as a Congresswoman she gets intel briefings.

Her committee assignments:

Committee on Homeland Security (2013–2014)
Subcommittee on Border and Maritime Security[118][119][120]
Committee on Armed Services (2013–)
Subcommittee on Readiness
Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities
Committee on Foreign Affairs (2013–2019)
Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific
Subcommittee on the Middle East and North Africa
Committee on Financial Services (2019–)
Subcommittee on National Security, International Development and Monetary Policy
Subcommittee on Diversity and Inclusion

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yardwork

(61,588 posts)
23. Yes, somebody else made that point upthread. Thanks.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:56 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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dware

(12,363 posts)
30. Why is it a great question?
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 06:49 PM
Dec 2019

Is there any indication that she violated her security clearance?
Is there any proof that she passed on any classified information?

So far, the OP hasn't explained why such a question would be asked, therefore, I would conclude that he, she is just trying to throw shit and see where it lands without any proof of misconduct.

It's dishonest and dishonorable ask such a question without any proof of misconduct.

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dware

(12,363 posts)
34. Wow!!!!
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 07:07 PM
Dec 2019

That was a well thought out answer.

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