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Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:10 AM

 

Gabbard has sent goons after people who question her cult involvement

She grew up in the science of identity cult, attended cult schools, associates only with members of the cult, and even her so-called campaign is mostly just an operation that pours money back into the cult.

A woman in Hawaii who began investigating the leaks found herself targeted by a vicious team of enforcers.

This is absolutely not someone that the Democratic party should run for president. Forget about her vote on impeachment. Gabbard is not who she claims to be.

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Reply Gabbard has sent goons after people who question her cult involvement (Original post)
bluedye33139 Dec 2019 OP
Gothmog Dec 2019 #1
bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #3
PatSeg Dec 2019 #23
OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #2
underpants Dec 2019 #4
bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #6
PatSeg Dec 2019 #24
njhoneybadger Dec 2019 #5
Blue_true Dec 2019 #31
sweetloukillbot Dec 2019 #7
bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #8
hlthe2b Dec 2019 #10
bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #14
PatSeg Dec 2019 #25
Cha Dec 2019 #28
hlthe2b Dec 2019 #9
catbyte Dec 2019 #11
PatrickforO Dec 2019 #20
keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #12
ehrnst Dec 2019 #13
Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #15
bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #19
usaf-vet Dec 2019 #16
lark Dec 2019 #17
calimary Dec 2019 #18
gopiscrap Dec 2019 #21
bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #22
colorado_ufo Dec 2019 #26
OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #27
Cha Dec 2019 #29
TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #30

Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:12 AM

1. This story is disturbing

 

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:21 AM

3. Cooper is also affiliated with the Kremlin

 

And has been implicated in Russian criminal activity in the United States.

It's the weirdest and most disturbing candidacy I've ever seen.

My ears perked up because she funneled half a million dollars to a gentleman who lives in a cabin in rural Washington state, not far from my home, and who appears not to have done any work for that half million dollars. He grew up in the science of identity cult. Money laundering is the official business of the cult.
https://culteducation.com/group/1298-science-of-identity/35033-why-is-tulsi-gabbard-paying-this-obscure-consultant-big-bucks.html
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Response to bluedye33139 (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:11 PM

23. That is so bizarre

 

I'm been suspicious of her for a long time, but it appears she is far worse than I'd imagined. If we ever learn the entire story, I'm sure it will be a real shocker.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:13 AM

2. Some folks determine qualification by LOYALTY ONLY

 

If she is loyal to a certain group all is excused and facts be damned. It happens often with this group.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:37 AM

4. She gets weirder everyday

 

Iíve learned a lot about her on DU. Clearly sheís an operative
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Response to underpants (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:40 AM

6. I don't think she works for the Kremlin myself

 

But I think that because her business is money, she realizes that the support from the bots will increase her bottom line. That's my theory, but then again, I come at her from a background in new religious movements AKA cults.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:14 PM

24. Yes, that's how I see it

 

There isn't necessarily a direct connection to Russia, but that she will do whatever reaps the most benefits in the long run. If this was a movie, it would probably be too far-fetched to be taken seriously. What else has this cult done?
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:39 AM

5. Holy Shit, I had no idea she was involved in something like that.

 

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Response to njhoneybadger (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:01 PM

31. Deeply involved.

 

Worships the socalled leader of the cult, a guy that has mixed Krishna and Christianity into an un-recognizable mishmash of bullshit. Someone posted one of the leader's sermons here, I listened for a few minutes and my reactions moved from eye-rolling derision to mouth-dropping surprise that anyone would believe that guy's bullshit.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:40 AM

7. Be careful, there's people out in force who are VERY CONCERNED about speaking ill of her nt

 

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:54 AM

8. Today they seem to have slithered back under the rock

 

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Response to bluedye33139 (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:40 AM

10. Many of us bear the scars for nothing more than mildly critical comments.

 

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:52 AM

14. Because of my history with ISKCON, I know how to grapple with the cult

 

The Chris Butler people, who worship him, pretend that they are Hindu and pretend that their group was affiliated with the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.

The only thing that Chris Butler took from the Hare Krishnas was the doctrine of what it means to be a bona fide guru. He took the concept and applied it to himself and decreed that he himself was the path to God and was God. Worship of Chris Butler will lead to immortality.

Children who were raised in the cult never celebrated Hindu holidays, and they never read the Vedas or any Vedic doctrine.

The first thing they usually attack people with is an accusation of being anti-hindu. I tend to mop the floor with their ignorance, as they are not prepared to speak to someone who actually understands vaishnava beliefs.

Also, I'm a little combative.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:16 PM

25. Good for you!!!

 

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:40 PM

28. Yeah, times have really changed from that..

 

Thank goodness
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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:39 AM

9. +1,000

 

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:48 AM

11. Well, this is alarming. Check out this Venn diagram:

 




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Response to catbyte (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:02 AM

20. Nice diagram. I did not know any of this.

 

No wonder Gabbard seems so 'off.' Being in a cult will do that to you.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:50 AM

12. When that 3:00 AM call comes in, Tulsi will answer 'present'.

 

When that 3:00 AM call comes in, Tulsi will answer 'present'.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:51 AM

13. I hear people posit that she's planning on running as a third party candidate.

 

Meanwhile certain "Bernie or Bust" discussion boards which previously touted "Sanders/Gabbard 2020" have removed her photo.

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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:55 AM

15. Science of Identity cult is an off shoot of Hare Krishna

 

Founded by Chris Butler who now has a very Guru like name I can't even pronounce.

Seems very much like all the other very weird religions...more isolation is involved in this one though.

Just remember there is absolutely no valid evidence for a god of any kind and yet we give these crazy people tax exemptions. That's why we have so many cults...they make money off religion.

If I claim to see magical pink blobs that control the world, would you give me tax exemption too?
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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:02 AM

19. ISKCON repudiated Chris Butler

 

The only piece he took from them was the belief that a bona fide guru can overcome karma for his followers. They blanket reject every belief of the international society for Krishna consciousness, and people raised in the cult have reported that they never read the Vedas or gitas or engaged in any Hindu holiday observance. They had Christmas trees, and they listened to Chris Butler's sermons on random topics.

I've never joined them because I do not like religious fundamentalism. Last year, for instance, I was reading one of Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada's books and loving it, and then I happened to read an interview with a ISKCON cleric decreeing that it was blasphemy to say that the lunar eclipse was a physical phenomenon caused by the shadow of the earth. Rather, we are required to believe that a demon has eaten the moon temporarily. Literally. And that kind of fundamentalism never makes me happy.

ISKCON has a mixed history. Lots of wonderful, wonderful spiritual seekers. Lots of authoritarian abuse.

Edit: also the doctrine that they cannot associate with people who are not members.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:58 AM

16. WE have many good options. In my need to prioritize the list some won't make my prioritized ones.

 

That is all I will say about one who does make my prioritized ones.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:59 AM

17. Nope, won't forget about her impeachment treachery.

 

Anyone beloved of RT and PUtin and Assad is not our friend or a friend of democracy in general.

That she's got other issues, a cult, is not surprising based on what we've seen from her.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:59 AM

18. Bookmarking this whole thread.

 

I smelled a rat way early but didnít exactly know why.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:51 AM

21. what cult is it that she is in?

 

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #21)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:55 AM

22. Science of identity

 

https://forum.culteducation.com/read.php
https://medium.com/@lalitamann/an-insiders-perspective-on-tulsi-gabbard-and-her-guru-e2650f0d09
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:17 PM

26. I'm sure all this is not widely known!

 

People need to know this background and be fully informed.
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Response to bluedye33139 (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:22 PM

27. Guess who defends Tulsi

 


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Response to OldRed2450 (Reply #27)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:42 PM

29. Like endorsing cenk.. not a good look.

 

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