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Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:10 AM

 

Kamala Harris's record and character matter -- not the race of her father and husband

Good article from the Wash Post:

California Democratic Sen. Kamala D. Harris hardly had time to finish basking in the glow of her presidential bid’s five-star rollout before 20,000 adoring Oakland hometown fans, when two black-media-inspired questions hit her in the face: Why did she marry a white man? And: Is she black enough?

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Last March, the Economist-YouGov poll found that 17 percent of Americans think interracial marriage is “morally wrong.” On a racial basis, a nearly equal percentage of respondents felt the same way: 17 percent of whites said it was morally wrong. So did 18 percent of blacks and 15 percent of Hispanics.

Thus, notions of black inferiority still abide in some whites. So too, hostility toward intermarriage among some blacks who regard crossing the color line to marry a white person as an act of racial betrayal.

White and black separatists miss the point. Individuals, regardless of pigmentation, don’t marry a race. Marriage is a decision by two people — not two racial groups — to form a union. They do it because they want to share their lives — with each other.

“Look, I love my husband, and he happened to be the one that I chose to marry because I love him — that was that moment in time, and that’s it. And he loves me.” No more needs saying.

more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kamala-harriss-record-and-character-matter--not-the-race-of-her-father-and-husband/2019/02/22/011f62a0-36c0-11e9-854a-7a14d7fec96a_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.41cd3f1a5430


My personal belief is interracial marriage is good for society and their children also benefit from hybrid vigor.

Heterosis, hybrid vigor, or outbreeding enhancement, is the improved or increased function of any biological quality in a hybrid offspring. An offspring is heterotic if its traits are enhanced as a result of mixing the genetic contributions of its parents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosis

Clearly Kamala is evidence of that!
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Reply Kamala Harris's record and character matter -- not the race of her father and husband (Original post)
honest.abe Feb 2019 OP
USALiberal Feb 2019 #1
honest.abe Feb 2019 #2
USALiberal Feb 2019 #3
honest.abe Feb 2019 #4
JudyM Feb 2019 #5
Politicub Feb 2019 #6
USALiberal Feb 2019 #7
honest.abe Feb 2019 #9
honest.abe Feb 2019 #8
SKKY Feb 2019 #10
honest.abe Feb 2019 #11
Adrahil Feb 2019 #12
USALiberal Feb 2019 #13
Adrahil Feb 2019 #14
honest.abe Feb 2019 #15
Cha Feb 2019 #16
Cha Feb 2019 #17

Response to honest.abe (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:01 AM

1. My issue with her is some of her decisions as a prosecutor. Many I don't support. nt

 

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:07 AM

2. Like what specifically?

 

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No doubt there were controversial cases in her past as DA & AG but that goes with the territory. However see below for the flipside:

The first test of Harris’s principles came in 2004, after she was elected as San Francisco’s district attorney (DA) while promising never to impose capital punishment. Less than six months into her tenure, Harris defied a united chorus of voices — from the city’s police chief and police rank and file, to Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein — calling for the death penalty for a twenty-one-year-old who killed an undercover police officer.

During the officer’s funeral, two thousand officers gave Feinstein a standing ovation after a speech in which she criticized Harris, who was also at the funeral. The state’s attorney general and former senator Barbara Boxer (whose seat Harris has now taken) looked for ways to circumvent Harris’s decision, but ultimately failed. Thanks in large part to Harris’s steadfastness, the killer was spared the death penalty.

In other words, at the very start of her career, Harris defied her own party, her city’s police department, and endured public humiliation to defy reactionary demands.


much more here: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kamala-harris-trump-obama-california-attorney-general

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Response to honest.abe (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:15 AM

3. Well....

 

Defending the California death penalty
Was against legal marijuana
She opposed a bill requiring her office to investigate shootings involving police officers
And this:

Consider her record as San Francisco’s district attorney from 2004 to 2011. Ms. Harris was criticized in 2010 for withholding information about a police laboratory technician who had been accused of “intentionally sabotaging” her work and stealing drugs from the lab. After a memo surfaced showing that Ms. Harris’s deputies knew about the technician’s wrongdoing and recent conviction, but failed to alert defense lawyers, a judge condemned Ms. Harris’s indifference to the systemic violation of the defendants’ constitutional rights.

Ms. Harris contested the ruling by arguing that the judge, whose husband was a defense attorney and had spoken publicly about the importance of disclosing evidence, had a conflict of interest. Ms. Harris lost. More than 600 cases handled by the corrupt technician were dismissed.
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Response to USALiberal (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:20 AM

4. I think we also need links discussing those issues so we can better judge them.

 

Just listing your opinions is not really credible regarding criticisms like that.

Regarding the death penalty issue did you read this from the link in my earlier post:

The first test of Harris’s principles came in 2004, after she was elected as San Francisco’s district attorney (DA) while promising never to impose capital punishment. Less than six months into her tenure, Harris defied a united chorus of voices — from the city’s police chief and police rank and file, to Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein — calling for the death penalty for a twenty-one-year-old who killed an undercover police officer.

During the officer’s funeral, two thousand officers gave Feinstein a standing ovation after a speech in which she criticized Harris, who was also at the funeral. The state’s attorney general and former senator Barbara Boxer (whose seat Harris has now taken) looked for ways to circumvent Harris’s decision, but ultimately failed. Thanks in large part to Harris’s steadfastness, the killer was spared the death penalty.

In other words, at the very start of her career, Harris defied her own party, her city’s police department, and endured public humiliation to defy reactionary demands.
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Response to USALiberal (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:29 AM

5. I did not know that, thanks for that info.

 

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:07 AM

6. Sources, please

 

I’m guessing there is more to this story, so seeing the source material would be helpful.
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Response to Politicub (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:13 AM

7. Numerous articles but here is recent one......

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html

I imagine her stances might pull in some right leaning voters. So maybe a good thing.
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Response to USALiberal (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:21 AM

9. Thanks for that link.

 

I also do agree her aggressive role as DA and AG will likely be a positive for the general.
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Response to Politicub (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:20 AM

8. From what I have read the lab tech issue was complicated and controversial for sure.

 

I have not found a detailed response from Harris on this but clearly there were issues with the lab tech. I suspect Harris's problem was the fallout of losing lab evidence for over 600 cases. I feel she was probably on the wrong side of this being more concerned with conviction than with protecting the rights of the person accused.

However, I cannot imagine any DA not having controversial cases like this in their past. I do not hold this against her. Her record as Senator speaks for itself ranked as one of the most progressive during her two years in the Senate.
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Response to honest.abe (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 11:03 AM

10. She actually addressed this...

 

...the lab wasn't run by her office, and it was indeed a rogue lab tech that messed things up. It starts at 4:50. I think her explanation holds water.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:02 PM

11. yes.. agreed.

 

I had not seen that. Thanks for posting.
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Response to USALiberal (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:06 PM

12. I assume you know Warren was once a Republican...

 

.. which is to say people can and do evolve their thinking.
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Response to Adrahil (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:16 PM

13. That was 22 years ago. nt

 

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:40 PM

14. And....?

 

That means she was a Republican (and has admitted to voting for Republicans since then) until she was 47.

Just sayin.... (I am more interested in what both of them have to say NOW).
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Response to USALiberal (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:29 PM

15. I always wondered why progressives are so quick to dismiss Warren being a Republican..

 

for most of her life but are quick to criticize life-long Democrats for issues they deem not progressive that occurred anytime in their lifetime.
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Response to honest.abe (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:26 PM

16. Kamala "married a White man" because

 

they were in LOVE! That was easy.

YES.. she's "Black enough".. she's quite capable of MULTI-TASKING!
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Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:44 PM

17. Kamala Harris on the stump in Ankeny, Iowa, hitting her theme: "Let's speak that truth so we can

 


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