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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 06:45 PM Dec 2019

Mystal: There's not a public facing job I could have IN THIS COUNTRY w/0% support from white people

He has a point:


Elie Mystal
@ElieNYC

Some friends wonder why I'm so *annoyed* at the Pete campaign

Let's just say that there's not a public facing job I could have IN THIS COUNTRY with 0% support from white people
Allen goddamn Iverson wasn't polling at 0% with white fans. We're not ALLOWED to have 0% white support.So the fact that this man gets to be taken *seriously* for President of the United States, on the theory that he'll *figure out* how to appeal to, like, ANY BLACK PEOPLE later, is just offensive to me. It is daily PROOF that this country thinks that black people are OPTIONAL.

Obviously, I'm biased. My career REQUIRES keeping enough WHITE PEOPLE more or less on board so that I may be allowed to work.

I don't even have the damn option of putting out a Tweet that I think ZERO PERCENT OF WHITE PEOPLE WILL LIKE.

But living in that world for [checks notes] 41 freaking years... watching this great white hope get inflated PURELY on the good vibes from other whites, without even MINIMAL consent from non-whites, just sticks in my craw. It puts me in a bad freaking mood.

If I want to spend ONE FREAKING DAY OF MY LIFE *truly* unconcerned with how white people think of me... I have to go "on vacation"... to Zimbabwe.

And with that: sorry white folks, that you had to experience this moment of black rage today. I'll go back to impeachment now.
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Mystal: There's not a public facing job I could have IN THIS COUNTRY w/0% support from white people (Original Post) StarfishSaver Dec 2019 OP
According to The Economist's Polling model, Buttigieg might be passed by Bloomberg soon. bluewater Dec 2019 #1
It's Biden, Sanders, and Warren. there you have it. Done. YOHABLO Dec 2019 #2
So many black voters in the "wine cave" BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #3
Iowa should not be 1st in our primary ever again. OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #4
Buttigieg has a clear racial advantage against Biden, Warren, and Sanders in Iowa. Renew Deal Dec 2019 #5
Wow OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #6
OK StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #7
Isn't that just math? treestar Dec 2019 #8
0% is a bit of an exaggeration TwilightZone Dec 2019 #9
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
1. According to The Economist's Polling model, Buttigieg might be passed by Bloomberg soon.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 06:54 PM
Dec 2019
https://projects.economist.com/democratic-primaries-2020/

If he falls to 5th place nationally, Buttigieg is done.
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YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
2. It's Biden, Sanders, and Warren. there you have it. Done.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:10 PM
Dec 2019

or a Moderate, a Lefty, and a quasi Lefty. Take you pick.

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Undecided
 

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
3. So many black voters in the "wine cave"
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:10 PM
Dec 2019
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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
4. Iowa should not be 1st in our primary ever again.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:21 PM
Dec 2019

All this attention given to Iowa voters months before the first vote should be in SC where our most loyal base is.

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Renew Deal

(81,844 posts)
5. Buttigieg has a clear racial advantage against Biden, Warren, and Sanders in Iowa.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:24 PM
Dec 2019

Biden, Warren, and Sanders would poll better in Iowa if they were white.

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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
6. Wow
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:26 PM
Dec 2019

Where did that come from? Holy cow.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. Isn't that just math?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:13 PM
Dec 2019

There are still 65% white people or so in the US population. It will still take a while until they are a minority and then the majority will be not white but also not all the same race.

A Democrat cannot have 0% minority support and win and if that is what Mayor Pete has, he's not going to be nominated by the Democratic party. Even if IA and NH give one "momentum" it would have to include the momentum bringing in the African American base of the Democratic Party.

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TwilightZone

(25,426 posts)
9. 0% is a bit of an exaggeration
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:16 PM
Dec 2019

Quinnipiac has him at 4% nationally.

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us11262019_uaov53.pdf/

Other polls seem to be in the same ballpark.

Ipsos/538 has the percentage that would consider voting for him at 16%.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-poll-shows-buttigiegs-new-supporters-look-a-lot-like-his-old-ones/

He can't win with those numbers, of course, so the underlying claim is valid, but the claims that he has zero support and that no black people would consider voting for him are a bit of hyperbole.

The 0% claim might have come from a Q poll in which Buttigieg had less than 1% black support in South Carolina. Not good.

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