Just an observation

[snowybirdie]

I've been seeing several anti-Bernie posts lately. I'm not a supporter of his, but is DU really the place to post so-called scandals about him and his family? Thought we all were united to elect a DEMOCRAT next time as a remedy to the awful tRump administration and it's leader. This is giving ammunition to the other side folks. A candidate is never perfect, but much better than what we have now. P.S. I know Bernie is an Independent mostly, but he is running in the Democratic primary.

Rant over!

[Magoo48]

1. Right on, snowybirdie.

[betsuni]

2. LOL

"The political, financial and media elite of this country will stop at nothing to defeat us. ... Our ideas terrify them. Right now, a group of Wall Street Democrats known as the Third Way is running ads in early primary states. They not only want to discourage or defeat a Sanders candidacy, they want to make sure that the progressive agenda is not advanced by anyone. They want us to go back to their failed corporate approach which has led to a massive level of income and wealthy inequality, a bloated military budget and a failure to address the crisis of climate change, a broken criminal system and inhumane immigration policies. Last time we ran, we made the financial elite pay price for their attacks on our progressive agenda. In 2016 we faced the kitchen sink. If we run again, you should expect no less."

For Sanders, Democrats are the enemy, not Republicans. He SAYS SO.

[Sloumeau]

3. Since you did not attribute the quote you used, I'll do it for you.

You can find this quote at the following website:

https://www.paulstreet.org/if-bernie-runs-wrong-question/

It is allegedly from an email that Bernie Sanders sent out around December 27, 2018.

Subject: If I run

Date: Thu, 27 December 2018

Whenever I am asked about running for president in 2020, I answer that if I am the best candidate to beat Donald Trump, then I will probably run. That is the truth.

If that happens, the political, financial and media elite of this country will stop at nothing to defeat us…they will …try to divide us up with attacks — some old, some new — and our political opponents will spend obscene sums of money on ads to defeat us.

I just did not expect the attack ads to begin before I even made a decision. But they have…

Right now, a group of Wall Street Democrats known as the Third Way is running ads in early primary states — Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada — calling me out by name and saying our ideas, like Medicare for all, are a path to defeat in 2020.

They not only want to discourage or defeat a Sanders candidacy, they want to make sure that the progressive agenda is not advanced by anyone. They want us to go back to their failed corporate approach which has led to a massive level of income and wealth inequality, a bloated military budget and a failure to address the crises of climate change, a broken criminal justice system and inhumane immigration policies.

Our agenda terrifies the political and financial establishment of this country….But the truth is, their agenda should terrify all of us…Our ideas will lift people out of poverty, they will guarantee health care as a right for every man, woman and child, and they will make certain that every person in this country with the ability and the desire can get the education they need, regardless of the income of their family.

Ours is not a radical agenda. It’s the agenda the American people want.

Their agenda, paid for by wealthy campaign contributors, has led to record levels of inequality, a health care system that costs more per capita than any other developed nation while leaving millions uninsured and underinsured, and grotesque amounts of student debt that rob many of our young people of their futures.

Theirs is the agenda that made Donald Trump possible. Ours is the agenda that will defeat him.

…In 2016 we faced the kitchen sink. If we run again, you should expect no less. But the political revolution is stronger and larger than ever, and they will be no match for us if we’re in this fight together.

[betsuni]

4. Not "allegedly" -- it is from Bernie.

Democrats are the enemy.

[hedda_foil]

8. He's talking about THIRD WAY. Do you support them?

[betsuni]

23. LOL. The only time I've ever heard of them was when the Sanders campaign

obsessed about them as some sort of supernaturally powerful anti-progressive force that actually consists of Democrats who meet every once in a while, like the DNC. Well, when one ignores Republicans there has to be another scapegoat. THIRD WAY!!!!!

[hedda_foil]

24. Maybe On me dad of rolling around on the floor you could look it up.

It's not a Bernie thing.

[Demsrule86]

27. Oh please...another boogeyman that Sanders breathlessly uses to divide Democrats.

[Cha]

16. Yeah, I asked the OP if he'd ever seen any of what BS says

about the Democratic Party? Or if he'd ever mentioned all the anti-Joe Biden OPs.. But, nooooo.. it's BS' Vetting he's concerned about.. unreal.

Nancy Pelosi, "Establishment Democrat," was elected the same year as Bernie & is the same age

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=390604

I get a little bit tired of Democrats who defend a cruel, dysfunctional health care..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=314341

[betsuni]

18. I wonder why so many are unfamiliar with BS's history. I mean, he says the same things all the time!

Yet when one brings up what he says all the time, it's a big surprise: What? When did he ever say THAT?

It's like a Bernie Black Out, except people are doing it to themselves. Bernie has to earn votes like all other candidates, this isn't a coronation! Holding feet to the fire!

[Cha]

20. RIGHT! "Holding Feet to FIRE".. What was always said about

President Obama on this very board.. and the "coronation" thing.. smh.

Thank you for the reminder, betsuni!

[DownriverDem]

5. Guess what?

I only support true members of the Democratic Party.

[we can do it]

7. Me too.

[Gothmog]

11. Same here

I am a proud member of the Democratic Party

[LakeArenal]

6. It's happened to all the candidates.

Not just Bernie. However, Bernie is not some innocent victim. He throws as many or more foul balls than anyone.

No matter what. Some don’t trust Bernie’s
commitment to the Democratic Party. Therefore not seen as a real Democrat. Even if Perez says he is.

[George II]

9. If you're on twitter, you might want to check the tweets from David Sirota.

[JoeOtterbein]

10. Great points!

Thanks for your post!

[LanternWaste]

21. "Please can anyone on DU tell me tonight this video is fake so I can get some sleep tonight?"

yeah... you simply ooze sincerity and credibility.

[JoeOtterbein]

22. I'm sorry.

That I keep you wide awake, following my comments.

I'll try to live up to your high standards, so you can get some rest.

[pangaia]

12. Intelligent... not a knee jerk -- rare---

I just wrote this in reply to another post..


Here's what I would like to see.-

Supporters of Candidate #1- write a post supporting an other candidate.
Supporters of Candidate #2- write a post supporting an other candidate.
Supporters of Candidate #3- write a post supporting an other candidate.
Supporters of Candidate #4- write a post supporting an other candidate.
Supporters of Candidate #5- write a post supporting an other candidate.
Supporters of Candidate #6- write a post supporting an other candidate.
Supporters of Candidate #7- write a post supporting an other candidate.

UNDECIDED are excused.. like me...

(Even though I recently replied to a post somewhere where I did not comment favorably on Biden.. oopssieee ---)

[ritapria]

13. I would obey any Subpoena : Joe Biden now says ( from the Des Moines Register)

What happened ?

[Demsrule86]

26. Well I don't think he should...it could really hurt us with impeachment...but those who support

losing candidate are all in on this...so Joe probably won't be called or if he is...will be fine and turn the tables on the right...but I am disturbed that some here are willing to risk losing the general for a candidate in a the primary...a primary is only a means to select a candidate who can win a general people.

[David__77]

14. Thank you for your comments!

...

[Cha]

15. Omg... it's called Vetting.. better to do

it now doncha think?'

Have you ever said anything about all the anti-Joe Biden threads? Or have you seen what all BS has to say about the Democratic Party?

Nancy Pelosi, "Establishment Democrat," was elected the same year as Bernie & is the same age

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=390604

I get a little bit tired of Democrats who defend a cruel, dysfunctional health care..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=314341

[TidalWave46]

17. Vetting is important.

Sanders has a long history of mixing his family with his career. It’s a trend. Not sure why it shouldn’t be discussed. Some of the family mix included sizable paychecks being written to his family members for taking direct part in his political career.

[PhoenixDem]

19. Anyone can pretend to be a Biden supporter any time n/t

[Demsrule86]

25. I don't post such stuff but it is vetting...and better now than if he is the nominee which I

consider unlikely.

[elleng]

28. Thanks