Democratic Primaries
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samnsara
(18,740 posts)...just saying.....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)are not people I trust in any way. Senator Sanders apparently does trust them, though, and he knows their past record. From Jill Stein voters and others who have made statements that they will not vote for the Democratic nominee unless they like that nominee, there's a troubling issue involved with his staff choices.
These Tweet deletions are troubling, especially the most recent one where the tweet attacked Lewis. It was only deleted after Lewis's disclosure of his pancreatic cancer. That is, to me, damning in the worst way.
I would like to see Senator Sanders make a public statement about that deletion and about the staffer who did it. It seems unconscionable to me. Were I Senator Sanders, I would fire that staff member forthwith. Will he?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,944 posts)views and values. The people that surround him are not there by accident. As an ABB Democrat I am glad Bernie is represented by his crew of bumbling Stein voters rather than competent political professionals.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(20,964 posts)about the health of the Democratic nominee during the GE campaign, as well as "lock her up" memes and "HillaRig" ("useful new verb!" ) hashtags after the election.
Who can trust the judgement of anyone who hires such peopled?




primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(317,714 posts)had/have nothing else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)attacking John Lewis, I remember very clearly Sanders delegates booing Lewis at the Democratic Nominating Convention in 2016. I can't forget that. It was a disgusting performance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Metatron
(1,260 posts)It was appalling behavior.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)It seemed unbelievable to me at the time that anyone would behave in that way. John Lewis is a revered civil rights champion. To boo him for speaking in nomination of Hillary Clinton was beyond rude. Unbelievable. It soured me on his followers permanently, frankly.
I hope never to see such a thing again in my lifetime.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(18,713 posts)As if deleting that tweet could somehow erase the sentiment she expressed...the same ugly sentiment that Sanders supporters showed Rep Lewis at the 2016 Democratic National Convention.
Some people have said in these forums, "well that tweet is from years ago". As if three years is so far removed that it somehow excuses a disgusting attack on an American Icon,a status which John Lewis most certainly meets.
A deletion alone is not sufficient in my book. If she's truly ashamed of what she posted, apologize sincerely. We're still waiting for that one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)I suppose it had been forgotten, and was only hidden after Lewis announced his illness and people called attention to it. It was deleted, because it was an embarrassment, not because it was wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(18,713 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)I don't like that person very much at all, I'm afraid. Bernie should fire her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(52,559 posts)The behavior of Sanders' people and Sanders himself at the convention was extremely disappointing. I fear we could witness a rerun.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(129,730 posts)I supported him during the primaries, but when it appeared he wasn't going to be a good sport about losing to Clinton and his fanboys were assholes at the convention, that was enough. It didn't help that he took his own sweet time about getting out and campaigning for her after the convention. I liked what he had to say and appreciated his progressive influence, but that crap convinced me that he would continue to be divisive. He's confirmed that suspicion during the current campaign by hiring the likes of Gray and Sirota.
This also supports my strong belief that if elected he would be an ineffective president because he doesn't seem to be able to get along with people who don't agree with him. Biden has taken some flak for his comments to the effect that he would try to work with the GOP despite the fact that the GOP doesn't seem inclined to cooperate with any Democrat - but it looks like Bernie, having repeatedly dumped on the Democratic so-called "establishment," won't even be able to work with Democrats. A president needs the strong support of his/her own party in order to get things done. After all his bashing of the DNC I don't think Bernie would have that support.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)supporters and their actions.
And here comes ANOTHER election.
S I G H
Yes, I will vote for him if he is the nominee, and I SURE FUCKING HOPE he and all his supporters will AGGRESSIVELY support whoever it is as well!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(176,731 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)in helping make the Bush tax cuts permanent ...Even a tepid moderate like Michael Bennett was shocked
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,516 posts)Unlike ideological soap-boxing, actual governing sometimes requires compromise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(52,559 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(18,713 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(18,713 posts)Way to address the actual issue here where supporters of Sanders have multiple times made disgusting attacks against an American Icon.
But sure, continue deflecting
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....from the fact that Sirota and Gray posted despicable things on twitter and elsewhere.
Making a judgement call on a vote in the Senate is one thing, saying horrible things about public figures is another.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,422 posts)Thats just the tip of the iceberg!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)That's called integrity. Others might not be as good at that, perhaps.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)to tell others also to vote for JOE BIDEN???????????????????????????
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(17,965 posts)Democrats. That is the subject.
There is no other real Democrat doing that.
There is plenty of hypocrisy with Sanders record, but thats not what this is about.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(20,316 posts)So far as I know none of Bidens staff has been caught slurring a civil rights icon.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
vsrazdem
(2,194 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)Does ANYTHING he or his team do bother you?
A N Y T H I N G ??
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,194 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)ABHORRENT behavior LIKE THIS STORY yet I NEVER see you or the other supporters in your camp criticize them, AT ALL!
By now you MUST realize how wrong and dangerous that is? Who ELSE does that?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,194 posts)candidate with such behavior. It is so wrong and dangerous.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)Is attacking the D party MORE than attacking the R party abhorrent or not?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)When will you cheer? And who will you sing with?
It's an interesting screen name, I think. I'm always interested in such things. What does it mean to you?
For those who don't know, I learned Russian courtesy of the USAF, in a total immersion program, back in 1966. I rarely find it useful any more, but I still retain a good bit of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,194 posts)Are you trying to imply something else. Sorry, but my ancestors have been here since the 1660s, mother member of the DAR, so if you are implying I an a Russian, sorry to disappoint, and I have no knowledge or interest in the Russian language.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)It's also a Russian word, which I recognized.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,965 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
empedocles
(15,751 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(20,316 posts)Never let it be said theyre not all in all the time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AlexSFCA
(6,319 posts)in the primaries. If not Warren, BS could have a real chance of winning primary that would result in colossal losses in general.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(98,883 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
frazzled
(18,402 posts)If you see a candidate surrounding him or herself with disreputable campaign staff, that is a good indication of what you would get should that candidate become a president: a staff and cabinet full of similarly disreputable persons.
There are so many red flags here, I don't understand how people can continue to defend them. It's not what a candidate says but what they do that is important in assessing character and ethics. This press secretary and speechwriter/senior adviser should be fired immediately. Short of that, there is no trust.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Those claiming to still be blind are not actors in good faith.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Apparently there has been NO apology. Just sweeping-it-under-the-rug and hoping that nobody notices. Well, I noticed. And so did a lot of other people.
She is such a vile and toxic woman. She supported and voted for Jill Stein, and she really brings nothing positive to the BS campaign other than her own ethical lapses.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(20,316 posts)Theres been a lot of moralizing towards those who dare bring these issues up. A lot of hiding behind words. A lot of attempts to dismiss or shout down those who find that tweet disgusting.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
revmclaren
(2,613 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
