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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:28 AM Mar 2019

House Democrats' health-care bill hurts Trump and Bernie

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) held a news conference Tuesday with fellow Democrats on Tuesday to roll out their new health-care proposal in the wake of the administration’s announcement that it supported complete invalidation of the Affordable Care Act in a 5th Circuit case. The court move came as an unexpected political gift to Democrats.

Pelosi reminded the media:

Last night, in federal court, the Justice Department of the Trump Administration – you’d think they have more to do – decided to not only try to destroy protections for preexisting conditions, but to tear down every last benefit and protection the ACA affords.

The GOP will never stop trying to destroy the affordable health care of America’s families. I always think of Mr. Clyburn and John Lewis when they quote Martin Luther King, when he talks about, ‘of all the injustices, the most inhumane is the inequality of health care.’


Washington Post

Considering the office BS is running for, he needs to be asked if he would veto progressive legislation. Would he veto a pathway to citizenship if he didn't like the Visa language in the legislation? Would he veto positive and progressive healthcare legislation if it isn't Medicare for All? Fair question considering he is lining up with Republicans in opposition to Pelosi and other Democrats when it comes to this healthcare push to protect and strengthen the ACA.

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House Democrats' health-care bill hurts Trump and Bernie (Original Post) WeekiWater Mar 2019 OP
Even Republican Senators True Blue American Mar 2019 #1
"Hurts" Bernie? Please. TCJ70 Mar 2019 #2
Sanders claims to want a pathway to citizenship. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #3
Sanders said outright that he won't support the House Bill. George II Mar 2019 #8
Pete Buttigieg has proposed a Medicare buyin option for people that need it. Blue_true Mar 2019 #19
Sanders said he doesn't approve the house bill BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #4
Sanders can pound sand. The Gop would make sure we were Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #7
Very Trump like BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #9
Great posts. Both lack empathy in my opinion. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #16
Great editorial Gothmog Mar 2019 #5
Bernie is playing the 'if I can't get what I want, I'm taking my ball home' game. kstewart33 Mar 2019 #6
The Sanders clan thinks BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #10
And "the people" will rise up and unite behind Bernie! NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #11
It won't happen. Sorry to say again, but Bernie cannot win. Stuart G Mar 2019 #12
I know. I've been saying that NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #13
Me too. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #17
he has been in public office for decades JI7 Mar 2019 #15
Don't be so harsh please BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #18
hello, who is the author of this article? KayF Mar 2019 #14
Support the Washington Post if you can. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #20
 

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
1. Even Republican Senators
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:35 AM
Mar 2019

Went off on that idea. One said,” There would be no repeal without replace!” Cabinet Officials did not even know.

Democrats just beat them on that.

I just watched Trump make that announcement with Mitch. Wiped the smile right off McConnell’s face!

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TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
2. "Hurts" Bernie? Please.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:43 AM
Mar 2019

How so? Obama wanted a public option and he didn't veto the ACA.

I like the things in the proposal that was laid out yesterday. The premium cap would benefit me greatly. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't push for more. Especially now since there's no reason not too as neither this proposal nor anything that goes further will make it past the senate.

Medicare for All or at the very least a buy-in option for every regardless of age. Go for it!

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
3. Sanders claims to want a pathway to citizenship.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:47 AM
Mar 2019

He has voted against it. Your Obama reference misses the mark on that point alone.

Additionally, what you like Sanders is on record as being opposed.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Sanders said outright that he won't support the House Bill.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 04:03 PM
Mar 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Pete Buttigieg has proposed a Medicare buyin option for people that need it.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:09 PM
Mar 2019

I tell you right now. If you are dreaming that people that have company backed health care are going to give that up for Medicare for All or even Medicare buyin, then you need to think again.

What Medicare buyin would do is help individuals that are self employed or who run small companies get affordable healthcare coverage for themselves and employees. That would be hugely beneficial to the country as a whole as it would encourage creative people to take risks starting up new ideas instead of stay with a job for health insurance coverage.

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
4. Sanders said he doesn't approve the house bill
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:58 AM
Mar 2019

because it is not the whole enchilada that he wants on Chris Hayes' show.

It is Sanders' way or let ACA be damned.

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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
7. Sanders can pound sand. The Gop would make sure we were
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:31 PM
Mar 2019

Blamed when nothing passes . Sanders knows once the ACA is fixed with a public option,
we get universal coverage but not Medicare for all maybe...his desired legacy.

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
9. Very Trump like
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 04:49 PM
Mar 2019

Trump has his wall
Sanders has medicare for all
Give me all
No matter how tall
I won't play ball
and I'll make the government stall

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Demsrule86

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16. Great posts. Both lack empathy in my opinion.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:17 PM
Mar 2019
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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
6. Bernie is playing the 'if I can't get what I want, I'm taking my ball home' game.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:09 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Which will split the Democratic Party.

It's difficult to imagine President Bernie negotiating with the Republicans and moderate Democrats to get anything done.

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
10. The Sanders clan thinks
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:28 PM
Mar 2019

that Bernie is so powerful that once people get to know him, there will be no republicans or moderate Democrats anywhere near power. There will only be (Democratic) Socialists elected.

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NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
11. And "the people" will rise up and unite behind Bernie!
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:35 PM
Mar 2019

They'll take to the streets demanding Bernie Forever! And Free College! And Guaranteed Income! And Abolish the Banks! And Unicorns! And Fairy Dust!

I'm sorry, but although I'm all for dreams, I'm not a fan of fantasy.

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Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
12. It won't happen. Sorry to say again, but Bernie cannot win.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:48 PM
Mar 2019
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NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
13. I know. I've been saying that
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 06:01 PM
Mar 2019

to people who demand to know if I will vote for Bernie if he wins the primary. I always tell them it's a moot point, because he won't win. The people will NOT take to the streets demanding all his policies be implemented at once. He likes to tell people that, but even he knows better.

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JI7

(89,249 posts)
15. he has been in public office for decades
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 06:36 PM
Mar 2019

if he had that power there would be a record of legislation to show for it.

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
18. Don't be so harsh please
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 08:49 PM
Mar 2019

He has named two post offices.

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KayF

(1,345 posts)
14. hello, who is the author of this article?
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 06:05 PM
Mar 2019

it's behind a paywall...

also please, what is the gist of it, how it hurts both Bernie and Trump.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
20. Support the Washington Post if you can.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:33 PM
Mar 2019

They do great work.

Game the system. Open it incognito. All your questions will be answered.

Shoot the messenger without even reading. That’s solid. It’s not Sirota.

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