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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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Funtatlaguy

(10,922 posts)
1. My wackiest female friend on this subject.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 07:58 AM
Mar 2019

So, was at a Drinking Liberally meetup (which I highly recommend you google for one in your area) and the subject of electability came up.
Everyone agreed that the most important consideration in picking a nominee was who has the best chance to beat Trump.
Some, of course, had their favorites for different reasons.
But, most said that all things being equal, it would sure be great to have a female.

One woman, who had been drinking pretty liberally, bursts out with this:
“I’d like for us to nominate a half black, half Latina, bisexual Jewish midget”.

With that, We determined it was time to wrap up the meeting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(298,644 posts)
2. What is important.. is the Dem Candidate
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 08:02 AM
Mar 2019

who can beat the monster that is killing our country and our Planet.

That will become more apparent as time goes on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Perrenial Voter

(173 posts)
3. Unfortunately, gender may be more important for men. In the past,
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 09:51 AM
Mar 2019

polls have shown men reluctant to elect a female president because of the notion that the Commander in Chief needs to be "tough" (i.e., male). It's all about performance, of course, not innate qualities. Remember how G H W Bush had to tweak his campaign rhetoric to show he had sufficient testosterone?

At a gut level, I feel that Kamala Harris is the only female candidate who can win because she projects "toughness" in a way that the other candidates do not. I like Warren's record and policies better, but every once in a while she does this thing where she talks like a little girl and I think this will doom her as a candidate. Again, performance. She's one of the smartest candidates out there. Biden has historically been able to speak to white working class men better than most contemporary Democrats and can act tough, but neither Sanders nor O'Rourke are very strong in this area. But they benefit do benefit from being male and all the assumptions that go with that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
4. We ran a woman who was tough enough, and her opponents labeled her a warmonger
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:00 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. I'll never forget... nor will I ever forgive.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:18 AM
Mar 2019

PS: Fuck Susan Sarandon. Not literally... but still... just FUCK HER!



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Perrenial Voter

(173 posts)
6. There are double standards for women and people of color.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:33 AM
Mar 2019

I used to get so mad about some of the stuff Obama put up with and remained so cool about. My black friends reminded me that if he responded like I wanted--and how we all felt was appropriate--he would suddenly become "an angry black man."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
9. Women have a more difficult time than other disadvantaged groups.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 04:27 PM
Mar 2019

Sexism is not like other -isms.

Obama could make himself acceptable by never ever acting in accordance with stereotype. This is why he was always polite and calm, so as not to trigger any white snowflakes.

A woman can't do that. Tough women are always "bitchy" and gentle women are always "weak." Demonstrative women are always "emotional" and calm women are always "cold." There's never a way to avoid criticism. Unless she's perfect, but my wife isn't running

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Buzz Lightyear

(73 posts)
7. Which polls are you talking about?
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 12:06 PM
Mar 2019

Link please.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Perrenial Voter

(173 posts)
8. Here is one from last year showing 45% of men and 60% of women
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 03:58 PM
Mar 2019

are comfortable with a woman president:

https://www.axios.com/poll-americans-comfortable-female-president-world-af57cdde-4e40-4deb-9855-9f86453ad99b.html

But I was really was thinking of polls from presidential races from before 2016, which I don't have readily at hand.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. This Democrat woman believes that BEING AN ACTUAL DEMOCRAT is the first criteria...
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 04:30 PM
Mar 2019

This Democrat woman believes that BEING AN ACTUAL LOYAL DEMOCRAT is the first criteria... after that, I'll consider and weigh other things as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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